became-sin-for-us-300x222SOURCE: Yesterday, as I was reading through portions of Martin Luther’s commentary on Galatians, I came across the following:

“Christ took upon Himself our sins, not by constraint, but of His own good will, in order to bear the punishment and wrath of God: not for the sake of His own person (which was just and invincible, and was not in any way guilty), but for our person. So by means of a joyous substitution, He took upon Himself our sinful person, and gave to us His innocent and victorious person: with which we, being now clothed, are free from the curse of the law. . . . By faith alone therefore we are made righteous, for faith alone lays hold of this victory of Christ.” (Commentary on Gal. 3:13 )

John Calvin’s comments on 2 Corinthians 5:21 are similar:

“How can we become righteous before God? In the same way as Christ became a sinner. For He took, as it were, our person, that He might be the offender in our name and thus might be reckoned a sinner, not because of His own offences but because of those of others, since He Himself was pure and free from every fault and bore the penalty that was our due and not His own. Now in the same way we are righteous in Him, not because we have satisfied God’s judgment by our own works, but because we are judged in relation to Christ’s righteousness which we have put on by faith, that it may become our own.” (Commentary on 2 Cor. 5:21 )

Those quotations, which underscore the doctrines of substitutionary atonement and Christ’s imputed righteousness, reminded me of an earlier study I had done regarding 2 Corinthians 5:21, specifically with regard to this question: In what way was Jesus “made sin” on the cross?

I thought it’d be worth rehearsing some of that material in today’s post.

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To state the question another way: Did Jesus become the literal embodiment of sin, or take on a sin nature, or become a sinner when He died at Calvary?

The heart of the question centers on Paul’s statement in 2 Corinthians 5:21 : “He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.”

In what sense did Jesus become “sin on our behalf”? Does that phrase mean that Jesus literally became a sinner on the cross?

There are some today who teach that Jesus became a sinner (or took on a sin nature) at the cross. Benny Hinn is one such advocate. In a TBN broadcast, Hinn exclaimed:

“He [Jesus] who is righteous by choice said, ‘The only way I can stop sin is by me becoming it. I can’t just stop it by letting it touch me; I and it must become one.’ Hear this! He who is the nature of God became the nature of Satan when he became sin!” (Benny Hinn, Trinity Broadcasting Network, December 1, 1990)

Prosperity-preacher Kenneth Copeland echoes those same teachings. In Copeland’s words:

“The righteousness of God was made to be sin. He accepted the sin nature of Satan in His own spirit. And at the moment that He did so, He cried, ‘My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?’ You don’t know what happened at the cross. Why do you think Moses, upon instruction of God, raised the serpent upon that pole instead of a lamb? That used to bug me. I said, ‘Why in the world would you want to put a snake up there; the sign of Satan? Why didn’t you put a lamb on that pole?’ And the Lord said, ‘Because it was a sign of Satan that was hanging on the cross.’ He said, ‘I accepted, in my own spirit, spiritual death; and the light was turned off.’” (Kenneth Copeland, “What Happened from the Cross to the Throne,” 1990, audiotape #02-0017, side 2)

On another occasion, Copeland reiterates that same teaching:

“How did Jesus then on the cross say, ‘My God’? Because God was not His Father any more. He took upon Himself the nature of Satan.” (Kenneth Copeland, “Believer’s Voice of Victory,” Trinity Broadcasting Network, April 21, 1991)

But do assertions like these accurately reflect Paul’s teaching that “He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf”?

To come back to the original question: “Did Jesus become the literal embodiment of sin, or take on a sin nature, or become a sinner when He died at Calvary?” My answer to that question is a resounding no.

Here are five reasons why:

Read More…

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | February 20, 2015

What Do These Faith Healers All Have In Common?

Faith Healer, Heal Thyself: 'HEAL!'

By Michael W. Hoggard – What do Finis Dake, Oral Roberts, Kenneth Hagin, Kathryn Kuhlman, and Aimee Semple McPherson all have in common? They all made claims that all Christians should be healed of every disease, and they all died with diseased bodies.

In 1992, health and prosperity preacher Oral Roberts suffered a heart attack which forced him into retirement. In December of 2009 Roberts died due to complications from pnuemonia.

In 2003, famed health preacher Kenneth Hagin, who claimed that as a child he died 3 times, died from cardics arrest due to the effects of cardio-vascular disease.

Woman preacher and faith healer Kathryn Kuhlman died of complications from heart surgery. As far back as 1955 she was diagnosed with a heart disease. In July of 1975 her heart again began to fail, suffering a relapse of the same condition in November 1975. She underwent open heart surgery for an enlarged heart in February of 1976, and died shortly thereafter.

Her most famous quote concerning her healing ministry was , “Everything that happened in the early church, we have a right to expect today.” Despite her claims that she could heal people of their diseases, those claims were discovered to be far from the truth. Following a 1967 fellowship in Philadelphia, Dr. William A. Nolen conducted a case study of 23 people who claimed to have been cured during her services. Nolen’s long term follow-ups concluded that there were no cures in those cases. One woman who was said to have been cured of spinal cancer threw away her brace and ran across the stage at Kuhlman’s command; her spine collapsed the next day and she died four months later.

Kuhlman was inspired in her “ministry” by “faith healing” pioneer Aimee Semple McPherson. Between 1909 and 1916 McPherson claimed that she healed herself 3 times, from a broken leg to instant healing of facial burns. Between the years of 1919 and 1944, she credited herself with a healing ministry that spanned the entire country. In September of 1944 she was found by her son in her hotel room unconscious with various pills and a half empty bottle of capsules nearby. She died about an hour later. She had been taking sleeping pills following numerous health problems, including a “tropical fever”. Among the pills found in her room was a barbiturate “Seconal”, a very strong sedative, for which she had no prescription. The coroner determined that she died of an accidental drug overdose compounded by long term kidney failure.

Finis Dake and his teachings have become the foundation of many of these faith healers such as Roberts and Hagin. Here is what Dake said about his “right” to be healed of all diseases. “Men can die and should die free from diseases that Christ bore for them…..If men were taught the true gospel and all Christians could have their faith built up to a normal and healthy state we would see multiplied thousands of victorious deaths without so much pain and suffering. But the average Christian today is taught so many fallacies until he is full of arguments against this truth. He has so much unbelief and doubt concerning the truth until very seldom do we find such a victory in death. GPFM pg 943-944 Dake lays the blame for someone not receiving healing on their own inability. “Concerning sickness, some get healed immediately and others do not. It is clear that there must be a cause if one is not healed for there is no respect of persons with God. He will heal and save any and all alike who to Him with the whole heart. The cause of failure is not in God. It is in the individual who is to blame. God has plainly stated what the cause is. That cause is always unbelief.” GPFM pg 909

Finis Dake died in 1982 from Parkinsons disease. This is what actor Michael J. Fox suffers from and the disease takes years to totally destroy the human body, the last few months are spent in agonizing pain.

Despite all their claims that God promises everybody total health and wellness, and that only the unfaithful suffer death from disease, these all died from diseases that their “faith” could not deliver them from. God is not mocked, nor will He be tempted. You can and should believe everything the Bible says. But these false teachers lied, made false claims, and fell far short of their own teachings.

Former Word of Faither Shawnice Powell revisits THE SECRET DVD and how it helped her get out of the Word of Faith Movement. Shawnice blogs at My Experience in the Word of Faith. Shawnice really pours her heart and soul out in this 30 minute video. GIVE HER A LISTEN!!!

super bppwl 2015This article, Joel Osteen on whether God cares who wins the Super Bowl, was posted today, the day before the 2015 Super Bowl. Here is what Osteen said in the video when asked that question.

“I think that God cares about us doing our best but obviously someone has to win and someone has to lose, so I don’t know……..”

But this article on the question was written last year for the Super Bowl and featured here on this blog. Which says…..

“When it comes to this weekend’s Super Bowl, 3 in 10 Americans are betting on God. A new study by the Public Religion Research Institute found that one-third of the country believes that God plays a role in determining which team wins.

Americans are even more certain about the players themselves. A majority believe that God rewards individual athletes who are faithful to God with good health and success.

This kind of thinking about faith and success follows a broader religious trend. Over the last 50 years, American Christians have gravitated toward spiritual explanations for why winners deserve their rewards. The default rationalizations — Good things happen to good people! Everything happens for a reason! — are no longer simply cliches. They are the theological bedrock for one of the most popular contemporary movements — the American prosperity gospel.

Millions of American Christians now agree that faith brings health, wealth and victory. This movement, which began in the Pentecostal revivals of the post-World War II years, has become a commonplace theological framework for how faith works to secure God’s blessings.”

That article also notes of Osteen and his Theology.

“Soft prosperity loosely equates faithfulness and success, allowing for temporary setbacks on the steady march to victory. Joel Osteen, senior pastor of America’s largest church, has made a career of encouraging people to embrace their identity as victors. His weekly television audiences of seven million tune in to hear his message of unstoppable success: “You were born to win; you were born for greatness; you were created to be a champion in life.”

My question is does God cancel out his truths for the Super Bowl? If it is true as Osteen alleges that success and victory comes through positive thinking (also see here) and speaking positive things by faith, then does it not follow that the team who wins, or maybe the player that might make the game winning play and get the MVP award, should be the ones/one with the most faith, positive thinking and positive confession? If the universe is subject to the Law of Faith as a Force, as Kenneth Copeland and Joyce Meyer still teaches, then does God suspend this law of faith on Super Bowl so it is mostly up to skill and luck or happenstance who wins. Or is God in charge of who wins, or is the so called law of faith that Osteens occultic teachings are derived from determines who wins?

And since Osteen admitted that obviously someone has to be the winner and someone has to be the loser, does that not invalidate the WoF theology because just like there will be winners and losers in sports games, there will also be winners and losers in life – will there not be times when we win and times when we lose in our Christian walks and lives here on this earth? And might there be times when we could have long protracted slumps and it seems like we are not being very much victors over anything for a long time? If the so called law of faith is always applicable shouldn’t the most faithful be victorious all the time in anything competitive?

If Joel really believed what he teaches about the power of words he would have spoken up and stated his theology clearly (although he would not like that term) and touted the winning team or individual as exemplary of victorious faith. But it seems to me that Osteen just shot himself in the theological foot and once again relied on his steady. fast and proven to work ducking measure of saying “I don’t know”. I pray others can see the epic irony here. Does God really care who wins, in my opinion no. And if Joel thinks the same then why did he just not say so?

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | January 23, 2015


This is ex-faith healer Mark Havilles second expose on the signs and wonders movement. You can see Mark telling the tricks of the fake faith healing trade here. And here is Part one, it is a must must must see. This part 2 is not quite as good as part 1 but it is still good and worth the time to view and share.

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | December 23, 2014

Understanding the Word of Faith Movement by Clete Hux

In this one hour video ARC Apologetics director of Cult studies, Clete Hux, gives about an hours worth of his 3 hour powerpoint seminar on the Word of Faith Movement at a small church. I have read several works of Clete Hux and was surprised to find out here that he used to be a follower of Kenneth Copeland for awhile before he went to seminary. He covers the occultic origins of the movement and covers the basics of “word-faith” theology (as he likes to call it). It’s really good and I would love to have all three hours of his seminar. Maybe one day he will publish it all. Here it is.

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | December 22, 2014

What’s Wrong With The Word Of Faith Movement?

Frank Turek addresses the issues with the Word of Faith movement

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | December 20, 2014

Jentezen Franklin, and his false teachings on fasting

SOURCE: “PART 1: The Daniel Fast, here

Jentezen FranklinThere are many churches today participating in the current fad known as The Daniel Fast. This is a man-made so-called spiritual activity that is supposed to automatically draw you closer to God by eating things that are on a list and not eating things that are not on a list.

If you partake of this fast, other benefits mentioned on The Daniel Fast website are winning the battle over the flesh (hard to do when we are still flesh when the fast is done), losing weight and healings from diabetes, allergies, arthritis and cancer. Another benefit is said to be putting our spirit in charge of the other two parts of us, the soul and the body. It must be news to the Holy Spirit that we can put Him in charge of things. (source). Here is what others have experienced by fasting along with Jentezen Franklin: healed relationships, spiritual growth, physical healings, financial breakthroughs, and other blessings. Wow.

If that is the case, you have to wonder what blessings aren’t being released, Franklin writes, what answers to prayer are not getting through…what bondages are not being broken…because we fail to fast.” The Word-Faith crowd always makes a point to say that we will lose out on something if we don’t do it their way. This is an example. Fasting is a voluntary activity we engage in at the prompting of the Spirit or when we feel we need to humble ourselves in grief or repentance, or to focus on Jesus in a more pointed way. More on fasting in previous post.

Jentezen Franklin is the guru of fasting. He has written two books on it and is the one who championed The Daniel Fast. His statements about why we fast include fasting to get a blessing, to earn God’s favor, to get a public reward, to get our greatest breakthrough, to “release” a hundredfold return. (source).

So the lesson from The Daniel Fast and Jentezen Franklin is that we fast to get something. I do not believe we fast to get something, and I do not believe we should expect something and I do not believe we have the power to cause God to do something if we fast. More on what fasting is all about in the previous post.

Secondly, if we fast, Franklin says, it causes God to “release” these things into our lives. My understanding is that fasting is a private expression of a deeply felt spiritual need and a way to humble myself before Almighty God.

All this elevates fasting to an importance the bible does not give it nor did Jesus give it. So who is this Jentezen Franklin?

Franklin is pastor of a Holiness church in GA but he is also pastor of a Holiness church in CA. How does he do it? This article from Charisma Magazine explains:

“Every Sunday, Franklin arrives at Free Chapel in Gainesville (GA) by 5 a.m. for prayer, preaches two sermons and shakes hundreds of hands before boarding a private jet at 2 p.m. with his family and two staff members. They arrive at John Wayne Airport, located five minutes from Free Chapel Orange County (OC), and by 6 p.m. Franklin is in the pulpit. The next day is filled with Orange County staff meetings, and the group returns to Gainesville on Tuesday. “This may sound like a crazy schedule, but it is actually exhilarating,” Franklin says. … “My family comes first, and what shows me that this is of God is the way they can be with me more now than ever,” Franklin says. “The school systems have actually worked it out that my children can be off the two days so they can be with me.”

Is this a biblical model of pastoring? Pastor means shepherd. How can he shepherd his flock if he has one pasture in Judah and one in Persia? He can’t. It is not a biblical model of shepherding. As for his family, is taking his children out of school for two days a week the best, most stable life for them? Is his ambition so great he plunks his children in the middle of his “crazy schedule” so he can enjoy the ‘exhilaration’? And a private jet??? He had a choice to stay in GA. He chose the jet set lifestyle. Is this the proper Christian pastoring and fathering model we want to buy into? It isn’t for me, and I refuse to spend money buying his book.

His friends tell us a lot about who Franklin is. This weekend he is preaching from the pulpit of false preacher Joel Osteen’s stage at Lakewood Church! (source here and here). There is no worse false church in America than Lakewood. There is no worse false preacher than Osteen! Osteen denies the Gospel in favor of becoming a motivational guru to have “your best life now”. The only way you’re having your best life now is if you’re going to hell. (that was John MacArthur’s wit). This Jentezen Franklin will be preaching from Osteen’s stage for two days. That should tell us a lot.


If that is not enough, after this weekend Franklin will be hosting the “Praise the Lord” show with Jan and Paul Crouch on TBN. There is no deeper of a snake pit of false doctrine than Praise the Lord show on TBN and Franklin will be promoting it. (source)

Franklin should be excised from any bible-believing church on these bases ALONE.

But wait, there’s more.

As for his teachings, they are false doctrine too. He said in one sermon as he appealed for money, lots of it for over ten minutes, over sentimental music blared from loudspeakers, “I’ve never come to Hillsong Conference where I haven’t sown at least a $1000 seed…”

Yet the bible says, “So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.” Mt 6:2

and Franklin goes on, “$1000 seed…into this place, because if I sow now, the rain of now will fall on my life.” NAME IT CLAIM IT! Tithe big, you get big. And what is “the rain of now” for heaven’s sakes? His hands were fluttering down as rain, and the audience looked up as if expecting manna or Armani suits or money to fall from the sky right then.

He is a Word-Faith preacher and we know those are false. The Word-Faith crowd is big on “if you do this, you get this.” “If you do this it will cause God to move.” They talk about ‘releasing’ power into your life, but in fact the only thing we have the power to release is a fart after dinner. He elevates to us more power than we have and diminishes Jesus in the process.

“It is so easy to get caught up in the busyness of ministry,” he says. “It’s dangerous to have a growing ministry and a shrinking passion for God; something gets out of whack. When I find myself becoming mechanical in my preaching, even a one-day fast fine-tunes me and makes my heart sensitive. For me, fasting is the key.”

Fasting is not Jiffy Lube. It is the Word fine-tunes you. Sigh.

But most telling, is the following:

He said, “When I feel myself growing dry spiritually, when I don’t sense that cutting-edge anointing, or when I need a fresh encounter with God, fasting is the secret key that unlocks heaven’s door and slams shut the gates of hell. The discipline of fasting releases the anointing, the favor, and the blessing of God in the life of a Christian.”

Don’t gloss over this.

It is the most abhorrent statement imaginable. It is sacrilege. Jesus has the key to heaven and hell. Nothing we do unlocks it. How sacrilegious to say that any activity we do unlocks heaven or shuts hell. This is wrong! On just that statement, he should be booted from every bible-believing pulpit, our churches, and our bookshelves!

And why is fasting characterized as a “secret”? It is not, at least not to anyone who reads the bible. And what is a ‘cutting edge anointing’? Is it different from a regular anointing? Franklin distinguished the “normal seed” from the “precious seed” in one ‘name it claim it’ sermon I’d listened to. I guess I am missing out on the “cutting edge” anointing and I just have to settle for the regular anointing we get when we’re saved. (1 John 2:20).

See, that is the dangerous heresy in Word-Faith preachers like Franklin, they subtly elevate themselves and their teachings above what the bible says, making everything else seem humdrum by comparison by using sexy words like cutting edge, fine-tune, heart sensitive, breakthroughs, hundredfold return, precious seeds…. it is all very exciting in Franklin’s world, exhilarating, even. By comparison, the staid old faith, prayer, service, obedience seems dry as yesterday’s toast.

The Word-Faith doctrine “puts confidence in the nature of faith rather then in the object of faith. It assumes that there’s something inherent in believing that enacts [or “releases”] something when it isn’t true at all. It is not the nature of faith that is effective, it is the object of faith. It is my faith in God that gets results not my faith in my faith.” (source: A biblical answer to the prosperity Gospel)

Franklin Jentezen is a jet setting, TBN hosting, Osteen partnering Word-Faith prosperity preacher who has no business being in any biblical church. He is a wolf. Avoid Jentezen Franklin and The Daniel Fast. Rely on the Holy Spirit to direct your steps. Pray, fast when the Spirit prompts you, read your bible so you will have the discernment to spot a false teaching when you come across one. Go have a good lunch, and don’t forget to thank the Lord for it!

SOURCE: As 2014 comes to a close, many people are reflecting on the year and setting goals. I’m delighted to see so many Christian women desiring to use the gifts God gave them to glorify Him. However, just as everything else in this world is corrupted, our goal setting can also be affected. And this is where Miss Interpreted comes in.

Miss Interpreted yearns to honor God and makes her plans for the new year accordingly. She reads half a verse from Proverbs which says, “Where there is no vision the people perish” (KJV) as a reason to set up vision boards and use visualization to make her dreams come to pass. This is hardly a surprise since Miss Interpreted follows the teachings of celebrity Pastors such as Bill Hybels and Rick Warren who teach this false interpretation:

Proverbs 29:18 says, “Where there is no vision, the people are unrestrained.” They can’t focus, can’t reach their goal, can’t follow their dream. An older translation says, “Without vision, the people perish.” I’ve seen it with my own eyes – without vision, people lose the vitality that makes them feel alive.
-Bill Hybels, Courageous Leadership, page 31

(links to Rick Warren’s teachings below)

Let’s look at other translations with attention to the words I’ve italicized:

Where there is no revelation, the people cast off restraint (NIV)

When people do not accept divine guidance, they run wild (NLT)

Where there is no prophetic vision the people cast off restraint (ESV)

Where there is no vision [no redemptive revelation of God], the people perish (AMP)

Words like revelation, divine guidance, and redemptive revelation of God make it clear the verse is not talking about our own vision we can cast. Likewise, run wild and cast off restraint is referring to rebellion – not a “vitality that makes them feel alive”.

Putting it all together, this verse is saying without God’s revelation in understanding His words and obeying it, people will cast off restraint and do what they think is right in their own eyes.

Isn’t it odd that Bill Hybels chose to use the KJV to misinterpret the meaning? He actually begins by quoting the NASB version which is a clearer indication of the correct interpretation. But I suppose the accurate meaning doesn’t support his message.

When There is No Vision the People Misinterpret Proverbs 29:18


We’ve only looked at half of the verse so far. It continues to say, “But blessed is he who keeps the law” (ESV), or “But happy is he who keeps the law” (NASB). It’s obvious by now this verse is referring to obedience and not failed dreams, or congregation size as Rick Warren would have us believe.

I suppose the faulty interpretation of this verse is attractive to Miss Interpreted because if she’s following Rick Warren, she is most likely also under the teachings of the Word of Faith Movement/Prosperity Gospel. After all, how different is casting a vision than “believing and conceiving”? As if this isn’t bad enough, this is really the law of attraction promoted in a twisted scripture. So basically, Miss Interpreted is practicing in the occult. Deceived Miss Interpreted started off with a desire to honor God and ended up meditating on her vision boards, thereby sacrificing to demons, not to God (1 Corinthians 1:20).

How can God be glorified if we don’t discern His words? Let’s plan to glorify God by testing everything (1 Thessalonians 5:21) so that our love may abound more and more, with knowledge and all discernment, so that we may approve what is excellent, and so be pure and blameless for the day of Christ (Philippians 1:9-10)

Soli Deo Gloria,

Pamela Couvrette

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | December 19, 2014


SOURCE: “ I like to start with something funny.”

As I heard these words from the T.V., I thought I came across Comedy Central, when it dawned on me that I do not have cable. (Yes, you heard correctly)

Then the voice from the T.V. continued, as the crowd synchronistically repeated the same words in a very robotic, cult-like fashion.

“Hold up your Bible. Say it like you mean it. This is my Bible. I am what it says I am. I have what it says I have. I can do what it says I can do. Today I will be taught the Word of God. I boldly confess. My mind is alert. My heart is receptive. I will never be the same. In Jesus’ name.”


I thought to myself, “Great, some Bible preaching and teaching.”

But again I was mistaken. Though the speaker said, “Today I will be taught the Word of God.”, he did not teach the Word of God. Not once during his message did he say,

“Look at verse _______.”


“ Turn in your Bibles to _______.”


“Our text teaches us _______.”

Rather, he taught some stories with feel good messages about self.

This was none other than Joel Osteen. But of course. Did you expect anything else?

A few years ago I was at a visiting church preaching from 2 Timothy about the biblical qualities of a pastor. In my intro I referred to Joel Osteen as a negative example of biblical pastoral qualities. At the end of the service, the pastor, a friend of mine, told me that the man sitting in the front happened to be a Joel Osteen fan. I told my pastor friend I was glad because that man needed to hear me expose Joel Osteen for his true colors.

Why does Joel Osteen have such a cultish influence?

1)  Because he feeds the ego.

Osteen preaches NOT the Holy Trinity, but the unholy trinity, me, myself and I.

Who doesn’t want to read his books “I Declare”( or his most recent “You Can, You Will.” when they stroke your pride and exalt self? Last time I checked, I believe Jesus talked about denying self!

This is the overflow of a man-centered theology, which is really an oxymoron because the term “theology” means the study of God. Theology by definition is God-centered. There is nothing God-centered about Osteen’s message.

2)  Because he scratches itching ears.

In his swan song, his death being imminent(2 Timothy 4:6), the apostle Paul warned Timothy that “people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, 4 and will turn away from listening to the truth…”(2 Tim. 4:3-4).

3)  Because he covers up the heart.

What do I mean by that? Rather than exposing the heart’s true condition, he covers it up. The Bible teaches that the reason man is so corrupt and so deeply depraved is because of  the heart’s condition. Both the prophets and Jesus reveal the heart’s true condition.

Jeremiah 17:9 – “The heart is deceitful above all things,

and desperately sick;

who can understand it?”

Matthew 15:18-20 – “But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this defiles a person. 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. 20 These are what defile a person”(emphasis added)

Because of the heart’s true condition, what the heart needs is a spiritual surgery performed by God Himself.

Imagine for a moment with me. You tune into Joel Osteen on T.V. The first words that you hear him begin his message with are the following.

“Today, I want to talk to you about the Heart. The heart is deceitful above all things! What comes out of the heart defiles a person.”

Now that wouldn’t sell because it does not feed the ego neither does it scratch those itching ears.

When you feed the ego rather than exalt the Lord, when you scratch itching ears that do not want to hear the truth and when you cover up the heart when the Word of God exposes it, then you are having a cult-like influence.

bennyhinn1-320x320SOURCE: There are a lot of things you should try at least once in your life — skydiving, eating some exotic delicacy, traveling alone. Let me give you one thing not to add to that list: attending a Benny Hinn Holy Spirit Miracle Service.

I recently went to one in New York. Before going, I knew little about Hinn — a man who’s worth some $42 million — other than that he’s a big-deal televangelist among countless charismatic Christians. As someone who’s fairly unfamiliar with that sphere of Christianity, I was mostly just wary of being in a crowd of people speaking in tongues and being slain in the Spirit.

But that turned out to be the least uncomfortable thing about the service. What did happen was so much more upsetting, difficult, and unnerving. If you ever go, here are five unsettling things you’ll experience:

1. You’ll second-guess your Bible knowledge.

When you hear Benny Hinn make statements like, “The prophets all prospered. They had no debt . . . ” it stops you in your tracks. Wait — what? No they weren’t. Were they? You might grab your Bible to check, or you might just realize, Of course that’s not right. What about Elijah, who lived in a cave and had ravens bring him bread to eat? Or John the Baptist, who wore clothing made of camel’s hair and ate locusts and honey?

Or, what about Jesus, who was born in a stable, buried in a borrowed tomb, and had no place to lay his head? When the earthly life of Jesus is a counter-argument to your “Christian” theology, there’s something wrong.

(Another related, absurd Hinn statement: “Where did Noah get the money to build that ark? Think about where he got that moolah.” I’m pretty sure he didn’t need to hit up the local Home Depot.)

2. You’ll realize he’s in control of everything in his world.

From the musician to his audience to the very God he claims to represent, Hinn exerts control over it all. He orders his pianist to play a certain way, and tells him to stop and switch it up when he wants a different mood. He tells his audience how to worship and how much money to give him. And he knows his audience so well — he mentions their material needs, then says things like, “I want you to sow $1,200, because I believe 120 is the number of liberty in the Bible.” Then he confidently promises they’ll be debt free in one year, as if he’s in control of that, too.

Question for Mr. Hinn: If 120 is the biblical number of liberty — which…what? – then why not just have people give $120? (He did also tell them $120 would be okay, but the added zero is a big deal.)

All in all, Hinn tries to take control of God and suggests you can do the same. He tells people to “claim reality with your mouth” and “declare it in writing” — as if you have the power of God to speak things into existence. As if you have the ability to make God do things for you. As if saying or doing something requires God to oblige you.

3. You’ll wrestle with your negative thoughts.

My first instinct was to write off everything that happened under the leadership of Benny Hinn as blasphemous — an offense to the very gospel he claims to preach. But, as you look around the room and see men and women worshipping God with abandon, you realize something. Maybe these people, who trust and believe Hinn, are actually having authentic experiences with Jesus, despite the man guiding them. Maybe these people are actually finding genuine faith in a place that is otherwise tinged by deceit.

And then, for a Christian like me, the thought creeps in: Could it be that God is using Benny Hinn for the salvation of souls? In a small, but significant and confusing and flustering way, this question complicates the otherwise strong desire in me for Hinn’s ministry to be shut down for good.

4. You’ll discover that he owns up to the prosperity gospel.

Unlike the Joel Osteens of the world, Hinn embraces the prosperity gospel by name. He even calls out “anti-prosperity pastors” and says they just don’t get it. At a Holy Spirit Miracle Sevice, Hinn will say “sow your seed” and “prosperity is for real” more times than you can count. And more:

You can’t expect millions from the Lord if you give him some small amount.
In Jesus’ name, we’ll have surplus. Financial surplus is mine . . . is ours.
You’re coming out of debt in the next 12 months if you really believe this.

Hinn even sends you mail a week later, complete with return envelope and offering card, reminding you to sow your “seed-gift” in order to change your circumstances.

Benny Hinn’s ministry can be summed up in his own words: “God’s goal for your life is prosperity.” By that, he doesn’t mean spiritual prosperity, life everlasting in the presence of God. No, he means material wealth, physical health, and general prosperity — which looks quite unlike Jesus’ call to deny ourselves and take up our cross daily.

5. You may end up walking out.

For two reasons. One, these things last upwards of five hours. But the main reason you won’t last the five hours is that you’ll get to a point of such total outrage at what he’s saying that you won’t be able to stomach hearing it any longer. I was (barely) able to endure two and a half hours of “God is about to place a ton of seed in your hands” and “I sense an anointing for this. It’s going to last four-and-a-half minutes” before I had to get out.

(Disclosure: apparently, by leaving halfway through, I missed the faith healings, the slaying in the Spirit, and his message. Lucky me, I was there for the over two-hour warm-up of “give me your money and you’ll be debt free.”)

When the service first started, I found Hinn somewhat humorous. Then I realized the thousand-plus people there were taking every word he said as truth, and I felt really sad for those people.

But it didn’t take long for that feeling to be replaced by anger. Hinn is taking advantage of hurting people — and using Jesus to do so, no less. That’s why you walk out.

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SOURCE: This video is the Faith preacher Kenneth Copeland. Or, to put it another way, this video is my childhood in 3 minutes.

I grew up in Bath, where Kenneth Copeland Ministries has its European office. I have Kenneth Copeland’s autograph in a Bible that was given to me on the day I was born. This is not Texas or Arkansas. This isn’t even London. This is middle class England.

When I watch this stuff, I still feel the same sense of awe I felt as a child. God, Creator of the Universe, the most powerful being in existence, had gone to all this effort to make me blessed. It’s an incredible thought.

I can’t tell you how annoying it is to know that you, reader, can just look at it and go, “bullshit.” Because from having my first doubts at 16, it took me five years to fully shake off. My Dad went to his grave believing this, and the only merciful thing is that if he’d lived, he would have given all our money to Copeland, instead of just most of it.

The most pernicious doctrine of the Word of Faith is the idea that “you can have what you say.” This doctrine of positive confession, as preached by the Copelands, says that anything you say in faith will happen. (There’s a good rundown of the prosperity gospel here, but it’s from a Christian perspective, so my atheist followers might be irked by some parts).

Anything you say in faith will happen.

For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.

Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.

Mark 11:23-24

Whatever you desire! How do you do this? Call those things that be not as though they are (Romans 4:17). So if you’re sick, you say, “In Jesus’ name, I am healed.”

Not “I will be healed,” please note: “I am healed.” You believe that you receive when you pray. You call things that be not as though they are.

When God created the world, he spoke. He said, “Let there be light.” And there was light. As sons and heirs of God (Romans 8:17), our words, spoken in faith, have this creative power.

If you say it, it will happen.

You know what that means? If you say something negative, that will happen too.

Never confess doubt, or anything else of a negative nature. Admitting doubt, even in a small way, will paralyze your faith. It will have the effect of withholding God’s best and His blessings from you. Therefore, we must never confess doubt.

Frederick K.C. Price, mega-church pastor1

If you say anything that is a doubt, you won’t get God’s blessing!

Picture the scene at my church on a Sunday morning. You’ve got a bunch of people who believe that if they say something positive, it will happen. They also believe that if they admit anything negative, it will continue, and the positive stuff won’t happen. These people have not seen each other for a week, and they are all asking each other how they are doing.

“How’s it going, James?”

“I’m blessed. Blessed, brother! Glory to God, I’m rich, healed, saved and set free!!”

This is not lying. This is faith. You can never have a normal conversation with someone in the Word of Faith. So once you’re in it, it’s hard to have non-Christian friends, quite apart from all the dire warnings about being unequally yoked with unbelievers (2 Corinthians 6:14).

There’s another thing:

All doubt comes from the devil.




From the devil.

Satan will try to influence you by planting thoughts in your mind. You can always tell when a thought comes from the devil, because that thought will always be inconsistent with and contradictory to the Word of God…

Satan is very clever at his job. He has learned not only how to plant thoughts in our minds, but he has also learned how to govern us in such a way that will make us think we engendered the thought.2

Any thought you have – any suspicion that what you believe might not be true – is of the devil. And the only solution is to drive it out by meditating on God’s Word day and night.

The belief that doubt comes from the devil – and speaking that doubt will stop you from receiving God’s blessings – is a level of mind control to rival any cult.

Logical thought is our immune system against believing fantasy. And the Faith Movement works by cutting this off, your only defence against deception. Your mind can’t comprehend the ways of God, it says, because His thoughts are higher than ours (Isaiah 55:9). Don’t expect to understand it. Just know that doubts are placed there by the devil.

Furthermore, if you’re having doubts, you can’t discuss them with anyone. The very act of discussing them will make those doubts come true. As a mechanism for control this works on so many levels. If you had only a slight doubt, discussing it with a friend might have confirmed it. Now that option is cut off. And if anyone does leave the flock because of doubt, it can’t spread to other people, because those people can’t listen to the doubter.

Mind Control

It’s a black hole. You can’t think your way out, because thinking is not allowed. You can’t talk your way out, because that’s not allowed either. You lose your non-Word of Faith friends, because it’s impossible to hold a conversation with normal people when your words bear no relationship to reality. And because you think the only way to make the supernatural happen is to speak the Word constantly until it comes true, that’s all you do.

The Word of Faith: It’s a cult, it’s got tens of thousands of British followers, it looks like Christianity, and no one knows about it.

1. Price, F.K.C. (1994: 51), Three Keys to Positive Confession. Los Angeles: Faith One Publishing.

2. Ibid., p. 37

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | December 18, 2014

4 Dangers of False Teaching by Pamela Couvrette

I ran into a former occultist/witch named Pamela Couvrette today that dabbled in the Word of Faith before she became a Christian. She has a blog at that has many great articles. She has allowed me to post several other of them here as her being a guest writer and I am very happy to do so. I hope you enjoy.


SOURCE: When cries of division and judgement occur in response to warnings about false teaching and the need for sound doctrine, what is being overlooked is not just vast amounts of scripture, but why the warnings are there at all.

Since all scripture is instructional for living (2 Timothy 3:16), there must be reasons why most of the New Testament warns about false doctrine. I doubt one of those reasons is to give me something to blog about, because trust me, I have enough cute photos of my dogs and failed Pinterest projects to post until the return of Jesus.

So what are the reasons behind the warnings? Let’s look at 2 Peter 2:1-3:

But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. 3 And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.

1. False Teachers and Teachings Slander Christianity

Verse 2 says, because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. Television Evangelists under the guise of Christianity have long been disgraced in the public eye, and more recently, Mark Driscoll of the Mars Hill fiasco caught the attention of The New York Times. When the bad fruits of these people are revealed to the world, it smears Christianity.

2. False Teachers Exploit the Deceived

Verse 3 says because of their greed they exploit with false words. Romans 16:18 says they deceive to serve their appetites, and, to make matters worse, people will follow them because it will suit their passions (2 Timothy 4:3). How many wealthy people are sending money to seed-faith preachers? It’s the poor who send money in hopes for their “donation” to be doubled. How many people need employment and are told they just have to name it and claim it? Or what about the couple who desperately want a child and if they follow the New Age teaching of Positive Confession, they will believe it and conceive it. So not only are these people, in some cases, getting scammed, they are being led down the broad path which leads to destruction.

3. Immature Christians Are Inclined to Accept False Teachings

Ephesians 4:14 encourages us to no longer be children who are tossed to and fro by the waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by human cunning, by craftiness in deceitful schemes.

Yep, that was me. Upon believing the gospel and being given the truth of our Savior, I quickly became a regular at the Christian bookstores, not knowing they were full of destruction. Then, when I went to my former church, they kindly pointed the way to all the false teachings I missed.  8-O

I was not grounded in the knowledge of Christ and the essential doctrines. I knew of them, but I didn’t know why they were true, or how they were important to the gospel, or to living righteously. I just lumped them with everything else that was labeled Christian and sought out the next Christian best seller book.

4. False Teachings Lead to Everlasting Punishment

This is a difficult and painful warning because what this is saying is false teachings lead people to eternal damnation.

John MacArthur explains this clearly:

They bring destructive heresies. This teaching invented by demons, propagated by these hypocritical liars who are parroting the doctrines of demons is intended to lead people astray and damn them into Satan’s eternal dwelling place. Satan is trying to collect people for hell and he wants to work inside the church, not that he can steal the salvation of true believers, but because he can confuse and deceive those who are coming into the church pursuing the truth. And because, also, he can derail and confuse true believers and render them useless.

That’s a pretty scary warning right there.

False teachings make the hearers feel good about themselves by telling them they are good people, and if they think positive thoughts they can achieve what they want. There is no talk about true repentance or sorrow over sin (2 Corinthians 7:10).

Are you under the doctrine of demons or are you under the word of God? Pray for wisdom (James 1:5) so you may be be approved by God and need not be ashamed by handling the word of truth correctly (2 Timothy 2:15) and be pure and blameless for the day of Christ (Philippians 1:9-10).

Soli Deo Gloria,

Pamela Couvrette

(H/T to Pamela Couvrette) I never thought I would be posting something written by Dr. Michael Brown here because he has openly defended the teachings of Benny Hinn and Kenneth Hagin in the past. But I guess there is a day for anything.

michael-brownSOURCE: by Dr. Michael Brown

Dear Joel and Victoria,

I hope and pray that you will read this letter and that you take to heart the things I’m sharing. I write as a friend wanting to help, not an enemy wanting to hurt, and everything I write, I write out of love for God, love for you, and love for the church and the world.

I have said many times that I’m glad to see your smiling faces on TV as you speak about Jesus rather than some stern-faced, joyless, angry Christian leader. And I believe you genuinely do care about people and want them to find wholeness in the Lord.

Joel, I appreciate the fact that you end every service by asking people to get right with God, having them pray a prayer where they say to Jesus, “I repent of my sins, come into my heart, I make you Lord and Savior.”

The big problem is that you haven’t told them what their sins are and you haven’t told them what real repentance is. And since you are speaking to people around the world, you can’t possibly assume that all of them understand the meaning of sin and redemption and repentance. (Most American Christians don’t even understand these things today.)

In short, you have not shared with them the whole counsel of God, and by telling them only part of the story, you have done what the false prophets of ancient Israel did: “You superficially treat the fracture of My people saying to them, ‘All is well, all is well,’ when nothing is well” (Jeremiah 6:14, my translation).

A true physician tells his patients what they need to hear, not what they want to hear, as one preacher of old once said, “Ministers are not cooks, but physicians and therefore should not study to delight the palate, but to recover the patient” (Jean Daille).

Have you been more of a junk food cook than a physician? Have you been afraid to tell people their true condition? Have you been so concerned with making them feel good about themselves and giving them a sense of hope that you failed to diagnose their terminal sin disease?

Paul said to the elders of Ephesus, “I testify to you this day that I am innocent of the blood of all, for I did not shrink from declaring to you the whole counsel of God” (Acts 20:26-27).
Do you really believe in your heart of hearts that you have declared the whole counsel of God to your listening audience?

God has given you one of the largest platforms for the gospel in human history. Can you say before Him that you are “innocent of the blood of all”?

Have you ever taught extensively on the words of Jesus from the Sermon on the Mount? Have you ever worked your way through one of the letters of Paul? If not, why not?

Proverbs tells us that, “Whoever rebukes a man will afterward find more favor than he who flatters with his tongue” (Proverbs 28:23). Do you believe God’s Word, or do you feel you have found a better way to do His work?

I appreciate the fact that you hold up your Bible before you preach, as your father did, and you have people make a confession about God’s Word, as you also learned to do from your father. But do you really preach that holy Word?

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I was blessed today to get a good internet connection again and to run into an ex-occultist named Pamela Couvrette who dabbled in the Word of Faith movement after becoming a Christian. Her testimony and writings are very good. She has many great writings. And she is going to allow me to post any that I want here so she will be posting here as a guest writer. I will post a couple of her post per day and you can see them all here. THANKS PAMELA for caring and sharing with us. We are honored to have you “guest write”. I am sure your work will help someone by you allowing us to post your work. 🙂

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SOURCE: I’ve managed to mostly stay off Facebook for the past couple of months, but today I logged in. It’s a breeding ground for heresy and today didn’t disappoint. To correct every post would take every waking moment. But there was a posted article that I can’t turn a blind eye to.  I’m referring to this article which asked “What’s the problem with Joel Osteen?”. I’m so glad he asked and I would love to address the author’s question.

Initially I was going to respond point by point according to Mr. Wagner’s article, but I’ll just cover the basics which should address most points. (Words in pink are from the article).

1.  “He preaches the most clear and simple gospel message a person could hear”.

What gospel is that I wonder? This article sums up Mr. Osteen’s gospel:

“God loves you and wants to save you from  life of mediocrity and small dreams. Therefore, if you believe in God and be obedient to him, God will give you a plan for your life that includes big dreams,  self esteem, favor, health and wealth, influence, a better job, a positive self image and a fulfilled life free of negativity”.

Of course this god would attract people! Even the World would love this Jesus. Sign me up! This version of The Law of Attraction/New Age/The Secret just might work!

And what happens when it doesn’t? “Over one million people have received Christ through Joel’s “Night of Hope”…” Which Jesus did they receive? 2 Corinthians 11:4. Are they healthy and wealthy yet? How long is their “receiving Christ” going to last if they are not blessed with a $10 million home?

Where is repentance and grief over sin, crying out desperately to the Lord Jesus Christ to be saved and delivered? Where is the resurrection? In fact, where is Jesus? This article reports that Joel Osteen repeatedly mentions god, but not Jesus. In fact, in 806 tweets, Jesus was mentioned once. Once. I had to say that twice.

I was a follower of Joel Osteen until I started actually comparing what he was saying to scripture according to 1 John 4:1.  Many years were a mass of confusion for me as I listened to proponents of Word of Faith. I’ve had chronic pain for over half my life. I also have hyperacusis (everyday normal sounds are excruciatingly painful for me). God wants me healthy? I would just like to type this without pain. Or be with friends and family without sound waves stabbing my ears. God wants me to have a “better job”? How about a job? Wealth? Come on. I’m sure you get the picture. Can you imagine what that did to my faith and my relationship with God? I was so preoccupied with attaining what the Word of Faith movement promised that obedience and mortification of sin took a back seat.

And I speak from a blessed, comfortable, 1st world, life. What about those in third world countries? War torn countries? What about persecuted Christians who are tortured for the saving gospel? What about those who have been martyred? What about the deaths of the Apostles! God had a plan for them and it wasn’t “self esteem”.

Now, what does scripture say? Matthew 5:11 says we will be persecuted on the account of Jesus and Matthew 10:22 says we will be hated. Is that the “influence” Mr. Osteen speaks of? It certainly isn’t free of negativity.

Romans 12:1-2 says we are to present ourselves as a living sacrifice and not to be conformed to this world. In Acts 9:16 God told Ananias how much Paul was going to suffer for His namesake. In 2 Corinthians 11:23-28 Paul says he was

in far more labors, in far more imprisonments, beaten times without number, often in danger of death. Five times I received from the Jews thirty-nine lashes. Three times I was beaten with rods, once I was stoned, three times I was shipwrecked, a night and a day I have spent in the deep. I have been on frequent journeys, in dangers from rivers, dangers from robbers, dangers from my countrymen, dangers from the Gentiles, dangers in the city, dangers in the wilderness, dangers on the sea, dangers among false brethren; I have been in labor and hardship, through many sleepless nights, in hunger and thirst, often without food, in cold and exposure. Apart from such external things, there is the daily pressure on me of concern for all the churches.  (NKJV)

How does Mr. Osteen’s message fit with this account? It doesn’t. (Ironically, Paul was speaking of these experiences to the church of Corinth because of the false teachers).

In 2 Corinthians 12:7, Paul speaks of a thorn in his flesh that God chose not to heal? Why? Many Word of Faith Preachers would say Paul did not have enough faith. That is what I thought for many years when God chose not to heal me. It’s a horrible place to be in.

God has used my infirmities to spiritually mature me and if healing meant I would go back to where I was spiritually, I wouldn’t want it. They have been gifts to me. Scripture is replete with the benefits of suffering. One of many benefits I have received is rightly dividing the word of God 2 Timothy 2:15 and 1 Corinthians 3:2 and Hebrews 5:12. It’s been a blessed and most undeserved gift to cause me to truly seek out proper interpretation of scripture. My relationship with God is abounding in many ways compared to my lost years.

2.  In Mr. Wagner’s article, those who are discerning and warn about false teachers and teachings are called “haters, attacking, slanderous, disrespectful, arrogant, divisive, Christian critics and I think he implied that we don’t have “hearts” when he said “-problem is in the hearts of the ‘Christian Critics’ (sounds like an oxymoron)“.  Well, we do have hearts, and even if we were all those things he called us, it wouldn’t be an oxymoron, because scripture says the heart is deceitful and sick (Jeremiah 17:9).

That being said, I find it strange that the very thing he seems to depise (Christians “attacking” Christians) is the very thing he is doing.

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SOURCE: I often talk about the Christ-less Gospel of Joel Osteen. Whenever people ask me what I mean by that, I always tell them this; Joel Osteen does not talk about the Christian Gospel. Joel does not follow in the footsteps of Paul and share this message.

Now, brothers and sisters, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you,which you received and on which you have taken your stand. By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.

For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, and that he appeared to Cephas, and then to the Twelve… 1 Corinthians 15:1-5

Rather, the gospel of Joel Osteen, the “good news” that he brings is that “God loves you and wants to save you from  life of mediocrity and small dreams. Therefore, if you believe in God and be obedient to him, God will give you a plan for your life that includes big dreams,  self esteem, favor, health and wealth, influence, a better job, a positive self image and a fulfilled life free of negativity”. That’s it. That’s what it’s all about. That is the sum of just about every book, every sermon, every media appearance, and every tweet of Joel Osteen, condensed into a few sentences.

That being said, there is something very important to understand about Joel Osteen: He does talk about God. A lot. You cannot accuse the man of not mentioning Him because he’s all over that. Here’s the thing though- Its never really in a personal sense. Joel talks about God, but its always in a vague amorphous sense. There is certainly nothing distinctly Christian or Biblical about it. There’s nothing doctrinal or theological about the way he talks about God. Rather He is an ethereal, shapeless, formless, customizable, singular being thing that is out there called God that functions like a cosmic vending machine whose sole purpose is seemingly to bless you and make your life better. Even when he mentions God, it’s not ABOUT God, but it’s about what God can do for YOU.

Why do I say “singular being”?  Simple. While mention of a “God” may be plastered all over his twitter feed, Jesus is Not. Joel Osteen rarely, if ever, mentioned Jesus. He rarely, if every, mentions Christ. This is true when you listen to his sermons, read his tweets, and listen to him on whatever talk show he’s touring. Let me give you some basic numbers

Just for kicks I did a quick survey of all Joel Osteen tweets in the last year. I can’t go further back, so we’ll stick with going back to July 8, 2013, which is a little more than a year ago. Out of Joel Osteens 806 tweets, not including any of his replies to other people, he mentions “God” 334 time.

Want to guess how many times he mentioned “Jesus”?


One time.

I figured that number seemed a little low, so I exchanged the word “Jesus” for “Christ”? And know how many times Christ was mentioned?


Two times.

In the spirit of generosity I though perhaps Joel was more comfortable using his real name “Yeshua” and searched accordingly.

No times.

How about “Lord?”

One time. And it was referring to God.

So this is where we’re at. This means that Americans most influential pastor, the guy with the biggest Church [43,000 members]. One of the most well-known and most recognized pastors with the biggest platform, out of 806 tweets this last year, in a Twitter feed that is not about his personal life, but rather serves to communicate his version of theological truths about Christianity and Faith for his 2.6 million followers…Joel Osteen mentioned Jesus in some capacity 3 times.

I don’t have access to the rest of his twitter account, but if you extrapolate the numbers, going back to 2009 when he joined, out of his 11300 tweets, he mentioned the name Jesus, God in human flesh, our great God and savior who was fully man and fully God who excruciatingly bore the wrath of the father on a cross and died and rose again in propitiation for our sins- yeah that guy… he likely only got mentioned 24 times. On a Twitter feed designed to share truth about the Christian life from a supposed Christian leader who tweets 2-4 times a day.

And know what? All three were at Easter. Nothing for the rest of the year. Which of course made me wonder “Didn’t he even mention Jesus at Christmas?” Nope.

Now of course if you look up to some of Joel’s favorite topics and main message he likes to communicate, he references to “dreams” as in to quote a recent tweet “You’re closer to seeing that dream come to pass than you think. You may not be able to see it, but it can see you.” 48 mentions.

How about “great/greatness?” as in “You have the seeds of greatness, don’t allow something small to keep you from God’s best” 365 mentions

Or how “favor” as in “Go get your favor, your dream, your victory. It has your name on it.” 32 mentions

And you can put any othe rof his favorite buzzwords in a search bar, and you’ll get scores of hits.

But talk of Jesus..and his death and resurrection…his salvation…his shed blood and sin….the forgiveness he offers….his grace and mercy…his loving kindness- there’s nothing even remotely like that there.

Like I said, Christ-less

[Contributed by Dustin Germain]

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | July 11, 2014

Kenneth Copeland Still Teaching Faith Is A Force

faith is a force copeland


By David A. DePra

SOURCE: Faith is NOT a force. Faith is a relationship word. It is dependence and reliance upon God. It is ultimately unconditional surrender to God. It is trusting Him, which includes believing Him. As you can see, faith is to govern our entire lives. We are to WALK BY FAITH in Jesus Christ.

This is important to understand because today there is a false teaching which states that faith IS a force – indeed, a force which YOU generate towards God. What this leads to is a whole array of other false teaching. First of all, it means that you can and must generate the, “force of faith,” that will act upon God and get Him moving for you. In other words, if you pray for something, and have faith, the faith you generate is a force which acts upon God, indeed, which actually creates the thing you want. From this comes the, “name it and claim it,” heresies. It also ties into the error that if you SPEAK something, it will come into existence, as is taught in the, “positive confession” heresy. Likewise, if you speak negatively, this will supposedly bring bad things to pass in your life.

False teachers have likened faith to gravity. They even say that God has faith! Of course, this is utter nonsense. Nonsense, of course, unless you have no understanding of faith. If faith were a force, then I suppose God would have faith. But once we see that faith is trust, reliance, and dependence, we see that God needs no faith. He hasn’t anyone to rely upon!

Notice the root error here: Error says that faith is a force YOU generate which acts upon God. The Bible teaches that faith is a reliance upon God and a desire for His will. Can we see the implications of each as to who is in charge? Error puts US in charge, and we use our faith to act upon God. Truth puts God in charge, and tells us to surrender to Him for His will.

There are other ramifications as well. If faith is a force, then faith is the power. YOU generate it. And it does stuff, or gets God to do stuff. But Biblical faith does nothing. It opens things up for God’s will so that HE can do it. Thus, faith is not power. God is the power.

The fact is, we have NO POWER at all. Indeed, real faith is the result of seeing that we have no power, no merit, and nothing about ourselves which obligates God to do a thing for us. Faith is the trust and assurance that all of the promises of God find their YES IN HIM. Not in us. Not in our faith. And not because we said the right words.

In every generation, it seems that Christians come up with a new gimmic as to how to get God to do what we want Him to do – although it isn’t usually put that way. Instead, we are told that God has already willed us to tell Him what to do. So we come up with ways in which MAN can do this. Does anyone see Satan behind this? He is. It is classic Satan, using religious flesh, and men of corrupt minds, to foster heresy in the church.

Let me be frank: It simply is not possible to teach such error and know Jesus Christ. It just isn’t. This teaching is the very antithesis of the gospel of grace, skews the basic essential of faith, and leads people away from a grounded relationship with Christ. If the Holy Spirit were truly living in such people, and they were yielded, how could such heresy go unchecked, and how could the Holy Spirit not convict them? Furthermore, those well-known preachers who do teach these errors have been continually approached and appealed to with regards to this teaching. That is not a guess — THEY say so on TV. Thus, they not only teach error, but defend it.

Faith is not a force. Faith is a relationship word. By faith we abide in Christ and walk with Him. By faith we see that we have nothing to help ourselves. By faith we surrender our lives to Him for His will and purpose.


Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | July 9, 2014

Can Christians live their best life now?


SOURCE: Question: “Can Christians live their best life now?”

Answer: Joel Osteen’s book Your Best Life Now has caused many people to seek their “best life now.” Among the claims Mr. Osteen makes are “God wants to increase you financially” (page 5). He goes on to explain that this quest for financial and material increase is actually pleasing to God. No doubt, Osteen is sincere in what he says and believes that wealth and success really are the way to happiness. But is that what the Bible says? Does God want all His children to be wealthy, and does He tell us that is the way to find happiness? More importantly, is our best life now or is our best life in the world to come?

To say that life on this earth is the best you can have is absolutely true—if you’re not a Christian. The non-Christian lives his best life in the here and now because his next life is one of no hope, no joy, no meaning, no satisfaction and no relief from eternal suffering. Those who have rejected Jesus Christ will spend an eternity in “outer darkness, where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth.” This phrase is used five times (Matthew 8:12, 22:13; 24:51; 25:30; Luke 13:28) to describe the miserable existence of those who are thrust into it at the moment of their deaths. So, seeking to enjoy life while they can makes perfect sense for them because they really are living their best life now. The next life will be truly dreadful.

For the Christian, however, life here, no matter how good it is, is nothing compared to the life that awaits us in heaven. The glories of heaven—eternal life, righteousness, joy, peace, perfection, God’s presence, Christ’s glorious companionship, rewards, and all else God has planned—is the Christian’s heavenly inheritance (1 Peter 1:3-5), and it will cause even the best life on earth to pale in comparison. Even the richest, most successful person on earth will eventually age, sicken, and die, and his wealth cannot prevent it, nor can his wealth follow him into the next life. So, why would we be encouraged to live our best lives now? “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also” (Matthew 6:19-21).

This verse brings us to the next difficulty with the “best life now” philosophy. Our hearts reside wherever our treasure resides. What we value in life permeates our hearts, our minds, our very existence, and it inevitably comes out in our speech and actions. If you’ve ever met someone whose life is bound up in pursuing wealth and pleasure, it is obvious immediately, because it’s all he talks about. His heart is filled with the things of this life, and out of the abundance of his heart, his mouth speaks (Luke 6:45). He has no time for the things of the Lord—His Word, His people, His work and the eternal life He offers—because he is so busy pursuing his best life now.

But the Bible tells us that the “kingdom of heaven,” not worldly wealth, is like a treasure hidden in a field—so valuable that we should sell everything we have to attain it (Matthew 13:44). There are no scriptural admonitions to pursue and store up wealth. In fact, we are encouraged to do just the opposite. Jesus urged the rich young ruler to sell all that he had and follow Him so that he would have treasure in heaven, but the young man went away sad because his wealth was his heart’s true treasure (Mark 10:17-23). No doubt the young man experienced his best life on earth, only to lose the hope of real life in the future. “For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?” (Mark 8:36).

But doesn’t God want us to live in comfort and financial security? We have only to look at the Lord Jesus and the apostles to know that the “best life now” philosophy is devoid of truth. Jesus certainly had no wealth, nor did those who followed Him. He didn’t even have a place to lay His head (Luke 9:58). The apostle Paul’s life would certainly not qualify as blessed by Osteen’s standards, either. Paul says, “From the Jews five times I received forty stripes minus one. Three times I was beaten with rods; once I was stoned; three times I was shipwrecked; a night and a day I have been in the deep; in journeys often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils of my own countrymen, in perils of the Gentiles, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren; in weariness and toil, in sleeplessness often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness” (2 Corinthians 11:24-27). Does that sound like Paul was living his best life? Of course not. He was waiting for his best life in the future, his blessed hope, “an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven” for him and all who are in Christ. That is our best life, not this “vapor that appears for a little time and then vanishes away” (James 4:14).

How can we expect a world infected by sin to provide our best life now? How can we ignore scriptures like “man is born to trouble as the sparks fly upward” (Job 5:7) and “all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution” (2 Timothy 3:12) and “count it all joy when you fall into various trials” (James 1:2), and tell people their best life is here and now? How can we count as meaningless the suffering of the early Christian martyrs who were hanged, burned at the stake, beheaded, and boiled in oil for their faith and their faithfulness to Christ, gladly suffering for the Savior they adored? Did they die these excruciating deaths because no one ever told them they could have experienced their best lives if only they pursued wealth and a healthy self-image, as Joel Osteen claims? The Lord never promised health, wealth, or success in this life. We can’t expect the promises He makes for heaven to be fulfilled now, and the Church dare not promise people the impossible illusion of their best life now. Such a promise encourages people to decide for themselves what will constitute their best lives and then reject Jesus when He doesn’t deliver.

The “your best life now” philosophy is nothing more than the old “power of positive thinking” lie repackaged to scratch the itching ears of the current generation. If we know Jesus Christ as our Savior, our best lives await us in heaven where we will spend eternity in joy and bliss, enjoying a life which is better than the “best” we could have now.

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | July 9, 2014

A Call For Joel Osteen To Repent by Todd Pruitt

Even though this article is from 2007, because of Osteen’s continued rise in popularity, it is even more salient and appropriate than ever.

: It is time for Joel Osteen to repent. His October 15th appearance on CBS’s 60 Minutes was yet another reminder that this pastor preaches a message that can only be construed by the most generous of imaginations as the Gospel. Time and again on his many television appearances Osteen has admitted (smiling all the way, of course) his ignorance of sound doctrine and disdain for the careful exposition of Scripture. He once famously responded to Larry King’s question about the eternal fate of those who do not believe in Jesus that even though he doesn’t know much about what the people in India believe he knows that they are sincere in their love for God. King did not press Osteen about which one of Hinduism’s 300 million+ gods was he referring. It all begs the question: why is this man a pastor?

Joel Osteen, a drop out from Oral Roberts University, was the director of the television ministry for Lakewood Church which was founded by his father John, a former Southern Baptist pastor. When John died Joel stepped into the pulpit of Lakewood which then had an attendance between seven and nine thousand. Since then the growth has been nothing short of phenomenal. Current attendance is recorded at about 42,000 in weekend services. After a $100 million renovation Lakewood now meets in the former home of the Houston Rockets basketball team.

I have a copy of his first book “Your Best Life Now.” A friend sent it to me as a joke. It worked. I laughed. If listening to Joel Osteen “preach” is frustrating, reading him is downright maddening. If he were not the pastor of America’s largest church, there is no hope that anyone would publish his sophomoric drivel. He is a bad Robert Schuller impression. It is reported that his second book, “Become a Better You” earned him an advance of $13 million. Sadly, it is more of the same therapeutic, God is your genie, religious humanism that was peddled in his first book.

When it comes to his responsibility and qualifications as a teacher Joel seems to want it both ways. On the one hand he says of his books and teaching, “It’s all backed up by the Bible.” In other words, “I know the Bible so well that I can formulate an entire system of life improvement while rarely having to refer to specific Scriptures.” But as soon as someone begins to point out his many errors Osteen gives his best “awe shucks” look and says that theology and biblical precision aren’t his “giftings.”

If a surgeon at the local hospital were treating cancer patients by sprinkling chicken blood on them you can be assured that the outrage from the other physicians would be palpable. There would be no cries of, “But he is so nice and sincere!” Astonishingly, many ministers of the Gospel and leaders in the church approach Osteen and his ilk with a “Well, it’s not my cup of tea” kind of response. “As long as he is helping people, who am I to complain?”

Christians are impressed with Osteen’s beguiling smile and oozing sincerity. I have heard his errors excused by appeals to his seeming kindness as if distorting the Gospel of Jesus Christ is okay so long as you are nice about it. Osteen may indeed be sincere. He may be the nicest pastor in Houston. Frankly, I don’t really care. But his inability or unwillingness to clearly articulate the Gospel is a chasm too great for his pearly whites to bridge. Writing from prison, the apostle Paul made it clear that given a choice, he would prefer the scoundrel who preaches the Gospel right to the nice fellow who gets it wrong (Phil. 1:15-18).

The only reason I care about what Joel Osteen teaches and writes is because he does so under the auspices of the church of Jesus Christ. Oprah Winfrey and Deepak Choprah can spout all the Christ-less paganism they like. They are not my fellows in Christ. But Joel Osteen claims the name of Christ and has been given the role of pastor. His errors, and they are significant and many, must not be ignored by the church. He is, whether he knows it or not, accountable to the body of Christ. It is, therefore, the church’s responsibility to call him to repentance.

Scripture is clear that few should assume the role of teacher for they will receive a particularly strict judgment before God (James 3:1). Paul warns us in Galatians that anyone, whether man or angel, who preaches another gospel, that is, any Gospel that differs from what the apostles preached, is under God’s curse (Galatians 1:6-9). The call for Joel Osteen to repent is not only for the good of the church but for the good of his own soul. On that awesome and awful day will Joel Osteen grin, flutter his eyes, and say to God, “I left all that Bible stuff to other people. My calling was to help people”?

Lakewood Church and all of Joel Osteen’s millions of adherents are living embodiments of Paul’s warning in 2 Timothy: “For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions” (4:3). When listening to Osteen it is impossible not to think of God’s chastising of the unfaithful shepherds of Israel. “Even the stork in the heavens knows her times, and the turtledove, swallow, and crane keep the time of their coming, but my people know not the rules of the Lord…from prophet to priest, everyone deals falsely. They have healed the wound of my people lightly, saying, ‘Peace, peace,’ when there is no peace” (8:7, 10b, 11). What Joel Osteen calls “lifting people up,” I fear God considers false cries of “peace, peace” when there is no peace. When we ignore sin under the pretense of being positive we are actually healing the wound of God’s people as if it were not serious. Osteen’s preaching does not point sinners to repentance by showing them the terror of God’s holy law. He therefore cannot rightly show them the true glory of Christ’s atoning work on the cross. The diminished view of sin he offers leads inevitably to a diminished salvation. The preacher who refuses to use the words sin, sinner, hell, and judgment can only produce happier pagans.

So, it is time for Joel Osteen to repent. I’m not kidding. I’m not trying to be ironic or funny. I am deadly serious. He regularly fills the minds of people with false gospels and happy delusions of God-sent success and “promotion.” He must turn away from his false teachings and step down from his position as pastor. He has not studied to show himself approved. Rather than proclaiming God’s word he has taught the inventions of man. But God is gracious. As long as there is breath in Joel Osteen’s lungs then God may still grant him repentance.

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | July 9, 2014

3 Reasons You Should Not Try To Bind Satan by Clint Archer


SOURCE: Spiritual warfare is real. It might not make the news; but it ought to. Paul acknowledges this in Ephesians 6:12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.

But the weapons of this warfare are often somewhat misunderstood. In some church circles, for example, it is commonplace to hear pastors and their people talk of “binding Satan” or “renouncing the devil’s presence” or some such display of confidence.

Here are three reasons I believe this is misguided.

1. Satan is (most probably) not in earshot

There is a pernicious paranoia that permeates churches today: folks think Satan can hear them speak. Some people unwittingly pad Satan’s résumé to include God’s unique attributes of omniscience and omnipresence. Yes, Satan certainly is ambulant (1 Pet 5:8 [2] [3]), but he is confined to one place at a time. He can’t read your mind, and he doesn’t perk his ears when he hears his name mentioned in your prayers.

I have heard a pastor who was praying to God, lapse into addressing Satan! “Lord we pray against the forces of evil in this place today, and Satan we bind you in the name of Jesus, we denounce your efforts to distract us by messing with the PowerPoint projector again, and we rebuke your presence here today. You are not welcome here!”

First, Christian should pray to God, and not Satan (even if what we are saying to Satan is meant to irk him). Second, I doubt Satan is loitering around your church anyway. So unless he has demons recording our prayers and then e-mailing him the transcript, Satan would have to be in the room.

As one who understands the very basics of time management (I have read Kevin DeYoung’s Crazy Busy) I am confident that fiddling with my church’s sound equipment has got to be a lower priority than say, what happens at the UN or a North Korean nuclear testing facility.

2. Binding Satan is above your pay grade

Satan can be bound, just not by you. The task of binding Satan is given to an angel. (Rev 20:1-3 [4] [5]). It’s a pretty important task, and a lot of eschatology depends in it being done properly.

Jude sternly warns precocious people who presume to venture above their pay grades and malign angelic beings.

Jude  8 Yet in like manner these people also, relying on their dreams, defile the flesh, reject authority, and blaspheme the glorious ones. 9 But when the archangel Michael, contending with the devil, was disputing about the body of Moses, he did not presume to pronounce a blasphemous judgment, but said, “The Lord rebuke you.” 10 But these people blaspheme all that they do not understand, and they are destroyed by all that they, like unreasoning animals, understand instinctively.

The archangel Michael himself didn’t pull rank on Satan the way many swaggering televangelists do.

Even invoking the name of Jesus is no guarantee that your exorcism would work. Sceva’s boys tested that hypothesis…

Acts 19:13 Then some of the itinerant Jewish exorcists undertook to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over those who had evil spirits, saying, “I adjure you by the Jesus whom Paul proclaims.” 14 Seven sons of a Jewish high priest named Sceva were doing this. 15 But the evil spirit answered them, “Jesus I know, and Paul I recognize, but who are you?” 16 And the man in whom was the evil spirit leaped on them, mastered all of them and overpowered them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.

Next time you are tempted to start bossing an evil spirit around in the name of Jesus, make sure you have a change of clothes in the car.

3. God has a better idea

The Bible is not written in code. There are sections written as descriptive narrative, which record what happened in history. And there are other narrative sections written as prescriptive commands that apply to you and me.

The only instruction Christians are given about how to confront the spiritual forces of darkness is Ephesians 6. Note the conspicuous absence of what you’ve seen on TV.

Eph 6: 11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil. …13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand firm.

He then lists: the belt of truth, the breastplate of righteousness, readiness given by the gospel of peace, the shield of faith, the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God, and praying at all times in the Spirit.

No holy water required.

On an unrelated note, my apologies for any typos that crop up this week. The devil is in the details.

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I guess I am a spiritual racist. I am almost finished watching the video and my heart is sick, very sick.

To see Palmer falsely claim that the protestant protest is over and we are all now Catholic was bad. But for him to claim we are in the “post-protestant era” and we are spiritual racist if we don’t believe so,, is too much. So many people will be emotionally manipulated by this.

I have been following this. The RCC was supposed to have signed an agreement with the Lutherans saying the RCC now believes in justification by faith alone but Palmer won’t tell you that right after that the RCC issued a “clarification paper” saying that the RCC and the small liberal Lutheran group that they signed the agreement with are still “divergent” in their views of justification. They in effect recanted on their so called recantation on their doctrine of Justification. Also the RCC has not renounced the 33 ANATHEMAS contained in the Council of Trent documents concerning those who believe in justification by faith alone, ie. Protestants. Also another point of deception is that this is being framed as “Luther’s protest”. But in reality there where tens of tens of thousands that protested against Rome and split with her, many of them where killed for doing so. Also the protest was not just about justification, Luthers Thesis that he nailed on the Wittenburg door contained 95 points that Luther and the others stood against.

And all the bad talk about doctrine also makes me sick. The RCC has not given up it’s distinctive doctrines but it will demand that everyone else will do so.


Come Quickly Lord Jesus.


Posted by: Damon Whitsell | June 30, 2014

Is FAITH a “FORCE?” by David A. DePra


SOURCE: Faith is NOT a force. Faith is a relationship word. It is dependence and reliance upon God. It is ultimately unconditional surrender to God. It is trusting Him, which includes believing Him. As you can see, faith is to govern our entire lives. We are to WALK BY FAITH in Jesus Christ.

This is important to understand because today there is a false teaching which states that faith IS a force – indeed, a force which YOU generate towards God. What this leads to is a whole array of other false teaching. First of all, it means that you can and must generate the, “force of faith,” that will act upon God and get Him moving for you. In other words, if you pray for something, and have faith, the faith you generate is a force which acts upon God, indeed, which actually creates the thing you want. From this comes the, “name it and claim it,” heresies. It also ties into the error that if you SPEAK something, it will come into existence, as is taught in the, “positive confession” heresy. Likewise, if you speak negatively, this will supposedly bring bad things to pass in your life.

False teachers have likened faith to gravity. They even say that God has faith! Of course, this is utter nonsense. Nonsense, of course, unless you have no understanding of faith. If faith were a force, then I suppose God would have faith. But once we see that faith is trust, reliance, and dependence, we see that God needs no faith. He hasn’t anyone to rely upon!

Notice the root error here: Error says that faith is a force YOU generate which acts upon God. The Bible teaches that faith is a reliance upon God and a desire for His will. Can we see the implications of each as to who is in charge? Error puts US in charge, and we use our faith to act upon God. Truth puts God in charge, and tells us to surrender to Him for His will.

There are other ramifications as well. If faith is a force, then faith is the power. YOU generate it. And it does stuff, or gets God to do stuff. But Biblical faith does nothing. It opens things up for God’s will so that HE can do it. Thus, faith is not power. God is the power.

The fact is, we have NO POWER at all. Indeed, real faith is the result of seeing that we have no power, no merit, and nothing about ourselves which obligates God to do a thing for us. Faith is the trust and assurance that all of the promises of God find their YES IN HIM. Not in us. Not in our faith. And not because we said the right words.

In every generation, it seems that Christians come up with a new gimmic as to how to get God to do what we want Him to do – although it isn’t usually put that way. Instead, we are told that God has already willed us to tell Him what to do. So we come up with ways in which MAN can do this. Does anyone see Satan behind this? He is. It is classic Satan, using religious flesh, and men of corrupt minds, to foster heresy in the church.

Let me be frank: It simply is not possible to teach such error and know Jesus Christ. It just isn’t. This teaching is the very antithesis of the gospel of grace, skews the basic essential of faith, and leads people away from a grounded relationship with Christ. If the Holy Spirit were truly living in such people, and they were yielded, how could such heresy go unchecked, and how could the Holy Spirit not convict them? Furthermore, those well-known preachers who do teach these errors have been continually approached and appealed to with regards to this teaching. That is not a guess — THEY say so on TV. Thus, they not only teach error, but defend it.

Faith is not a force. Faith is a relationship word. By faith we abide in Christ and walk with Him. By faith we see that we have nothing to help ourselves. By faith we surrender our lives to Him for His will and purpose.

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | June 30, 2014

VIDEO: Joel Osteen talks about his visit with the Pope

Joel Osteen recently went on an ecumenical trip to the Vatican to meet Pope Francis. This video shows Osteen talking to a local news reporter about that visit with the Pope.



Right after Joel Osteen met with the Pope at the Vatican Kenneth Copeland is reporting at his site that he just returned from the Vatican and a visit with Pope Francis.  This comes less than two months after the Pope sent a video message to Copeland, and the leaders at his leadership conference, encouraging Charismatics everywhere and Charismatic Catholics to unite. But this was not typical ecumenical message. Liberal Episcopal Bishop Tony Palmer (pictured far right) introduced the Popes message by saying that the Protestant protest is over so now we are all Catholics.


Here is the report from Copeland’s site. I will post the full report when it is posted there.

SOURCE: Here’s what he had to say about his meeting with the Pope:

“I am so Blessed!  What Jesus asked the Father for in John 17:21, “that we may all be one in Him”, is finally coming to pass.  Pope Francis is a man filled with the love of Jesus. All eight of us in our meeting together with him were moved by the strong presence of the Holy Spirit, and our love for one another was strengthened beyond measure.  Like I said, I am so BLESSED!  What a time to be a believer!” – Kenneth Copeland

A complete report from Brother Copeland about his visit to the Vatican will be posted soon!

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | June 27, 2014

Why Do Faith Healers Wear Glasses? by Peter Rosenberger


SOURCE: Many living with chronic suffering know from experience that stepping into some churches can be hazardous to your faith. Admonishments such as, “if you had enough faith, Jesus would heal you,” are not uncommon directives from church folk who are not only poorly educated in what the Bible teaches, but also suffer themselves from a deplorable lack of humility and compassion. Hurting individuals seeking comfort in churches may often encounter spiritual “sweathogs” ( thank you, Mr. Kotter ) who, when faced with affliction in others, counter it by brandishing the “Sword of the Spirit” like an axe to bludgeon the already bruised and suffering. In days past, such doctrinal beliefs and behaviors remained somewhat contained to church circles. Today, however, that message blasts forth on 24-hour cable, social media, and every other type of communication method (some worldwide), and there seems to be no shortage in mass media messages promising the next “breakthrough” to those who subscribe to a particular ministry’s teachings.

Flipping channels one evening, I happened upon a broadcast of a prominent “television evangelist” who earned international fame with reported miraculous healings through his ministry. With an expectant group of suffering lined up in their wheelchairs hoping to reach the man in the spotlight, the whole thing had a circus-like feel as the audience looked on waiting to see something astonishing. Combine that with the rousing music played on “traditional Biblical instruments” such as a Hammond B-3 organ (preferably with the Leslie speaker) and the formulaic and campy performance, is a picture of the Church that cause many Christians to slide further down in their pews with embarrassment. Ignoring the carnival-esque atmosphere, my eyes immediately fixed upon the glasses perched on the preacher’s nose. “Wait a minute,” I thought to myself. “Doesn’t this guy believe that God will heal his poor vision?”

Do minor sufferings such as age-impacted eyesight not qualify for those who bill themselves as having an “anointing for healing” ministry? How much suffering is acceptable before traveling to a sawdust-floored tent to hear a man in a white suit pronounce a cure for maladies? To be fair, most of these high profiled individuals have upgraded to indoor arenas with state-of-the-art sound systems and lighting.

The topic of miraculous healing continues to be a flashpoint for many in and out of church. Whereas the Bible contains many statements of healing, prosperity, and comfort – it appears a segment of Christianity hijacked those verses and positioned themselves as authorities on God’s provision in relation to the sufferings of this world. The cartoonish behavior of some preachers who proclaim healing ministries often serves as fodder for comedians, and disdain for many Christians. For the suffering, the dangling carrot of healing and instant relief from misery is almost tortuous in itself. Hurting souls often twist themselves into emotional, spiritual, and financial pretzels to chase the rainbow of healing. When desperate for relief, sowing a pledge into that particular ministry might seem a small price to pay for the alluring offer of God’s healing and miraculous provisions. As recent as last week, I heard one well-known minister pronounce on national/international television when asking viewers to contribute, “God can’t work a miracle on our behalf unless we act on faith.”

Is that how God works? Is that how the King of Kings and Lord of Lords ministers to his followers? Should we offer an earnest prayer before plopping down “seed faith” or scratching a Powerball ticket?
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SOURCE: Following is my critique of two of Joel Osteen’s Sermons on the resurrection from 1999 and 2000. A lot of what Joel Osteen says about what Christ did on the cross for sinners “appears” to be true at first glance but as I will show below he has a distorted view of God and how and where Christ paid for our sins.

Joel’s comments are in an indented box with my comments in plain text and scriptures in Teal.

What the Resurrection Means to us as believers

From: #CS_001 – 4/4/99

Joel said:

But listen. Matthew 27:51 says that the very moment that Jesus died, the curtain in the temple that surrounded the presence of God was ripped in two from the top to the bottom. Now listen to this carefully because it’s very significant. Back in those days, God didn’t live in people like He does now. He lived in buildings. For a while, He lived in the Ark of the Covenant. But at this particular time, the people had built for Him a temple. And God lived in a sacred secluded area of the temple called the Holy of Holies.

The Holy Spirit lives in us when we become believers, that much is true. But notice this isn’t what Joel said. God may dwell in the hearts of those that believe, but it’s in a spiritual sense only. God’s throne is in heaven not on the earth.

“Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?” (Isaiah 66:1)

“Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?” (Acts 7:49)

What Joel said above may not be much of a problem YET. But he needs to be watched closely to see if he follows the line of other WoF teachers like Benny Hinn, Joyce Meyer and Kenneth Copeland who claim that we are not sinners and man is divine.

Joel continues:

So what was happening here? Well, in the book of John, John gives the account of Jesus when He just arose from the dead. And it’s in John, chapter 20. You don’t need to turn to it. Let me just tell you. Mary Magdalene was at the Garden tomb and she was sobbing. She’s looking in there and she can’t find the body of Jesus. And Jesus has appeared to her, behind her. Jesus says, “Woman, why are you weeping?” And she thought He was the gardener. She said, “Sir, if you’ve taken away His body, please tell me where and I’ll go get Him?” And Jesus said, “Mary.” No doubt she recognized Jesus’ voice at that point. And she turned around and she said, “Rabbi, Teacher, Master.” And no doubt she was going to hug Him or to grab Him. Maybe to embrace Him. In John 20:17, He said something that’s very significant also. He said, “Mary, touch me not. I have not yet ascended unto my Father and to your Father; unto your God and to my God.” See, there still had to be a blood sacrifice. And Jesus had shed His blood. And He had His holy blood on Him at that point. He had the precious blood of Jesus on Him. And it’s interesting because later when Jesus appeared to the disciples, He openly told them. He said, “Touch me, feel me, handle me.” You know the story. He told doubting Thomas, “Feel the nail scars in my hand.”

Please notice that Joel said the shedding of Christ’s blood was not completed on the Cross. Even after Christ appeared to Mary with his resurrected and bloodstained body Joel says “there still had to be a blood sacrifice.”

Joel continues:

Why did He tell Mary, “Don’t touch me”? Well, the reason He did is He had just arisen from the dead. He had the blood, the precious blood, the sacrifice for the sins of the whole world on Him. And what He was saying, He said, “Mary, I’m about to go.” And the Bible talks about in Hebrews how He went, He didn’t go to the Holy of Holies this time because God moved out of that. He went into the very heavens themselves and He placed His blood as a sacrifice for our sins in the high court of heaven. And He offered it to God. And the good news about Easter is that God accepted the sacrifice of the blood of Jesus Christ.

This almost sounds scriptural, except Joel seems to be implying that Mary’s touching him would negate what he did on the cross. If this is what he meant it doesn’t make sense when the next year in his resurrection speech Joel said Christ went to Hell to wrestle with Satan (see below).

Joel Osteen’s Sinners prayer at end of this sermon:

And I want you to just pray a simple prayer with me. Maybe you don’t know how to pray. But all you got to do is say this prayer and mean it with your heart. Say, Jesus, come into my heart. Save me. Be my Lord. Be my Savior. Jesus, I want to serve You all the days of my life. I’m not everything I want to be Jesus, but I know You’ll make me into what You want me to be. Jesus, I’ll serve You all the days. I’ll give you 100%.

Notice there is no mention of people acknowledging they are a sinner in this “sinner’s” prayer.


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Joel repeated almost the same identical message re the crucifixion and resurrection as the year before, i.e., he’s still saying God lives in man and “now we are the address of God” and Christ didn’t complete his work on the cross, he still had to go to Heaven to deliver his blood and this is why he didn’t want Mary to touch him. However, this year he goes a LOT farther with his message, re where Jesus went after the resurrection and before he went to heaven:

I can imagine when Jesus bowed His head and died on that cross, that Satan and all those demons they gathered in Hell for a great victory celebration. I can imagine it looked something like the victory party in the locker room after the Super Bowl. . . . But in the midst of that celebration, one of the demons notices a man coming from a long distance. . . .One of those demons finally recognizes who it is. And he screams in terror, Oh no, it’s our worst nightmare. He’s back. Here comes the Son of God. . . . Can’t you see Jesus looking right into Satan’s eyes and saying, “Satan, I hate to spoil your victory party, but I think you’re celebrating a little bit too soon”? You may have knocked me down, but you sure didn’t knock me out. And it’s not over until I say it’s over. Satan says, Listen, Jesus, you’re on my turf now. You don’t have a chance down here. You’re surrounded by my demons. We’re going to tear you apart. And Jesus just smiles and says, “Go ahead, Satan, make my day!” (Congregation applauds) Jesus says, “Look, Satan, I’m down here to take care of business. I’m ready to do battle. I don’t want to be here any longer than I have to be because it stinks down here. . . . The Bible indicates that for three days, Jesus went into the very depths of hell. Right into the enemy’s own territory. And He did battle with Satan face to face.

Joel doesn’t mention which verse he is referring to but it is probably the following:
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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | June 25, 2014

BEST EVER video series on the Word of Faith Movement

This is simply the best video or video series I have ever seen on the Word of Faith Movement. Tim Martin of Watchman Fellowship does an outstanding job of looking in depth into the teachings of the WoF. This series is long but is perfect for anyone wanting to really learn what the WoF teaches. And this would also be the best thing for Ex-WoFers who are trying to deprogram from the WoF teaching and lies. Tim looks at scripture and what makes the WoF tick. THIS IS A MUST SEE.

In this introductory class on the Word Faith Movement, I introduce the topic and layout my basic approach to the subject. A brief description of the Movement is given, and a brief overview of some of the major TV preachers such as: Gloria Copeland, Kenneth Copeland, Kenneth Hagin, Frederick Price, Creflo Dollar, Benny Hinn, John Hagee, Rod Parsley, Joyce Meyer, Paula White and Joel Osteen.

This class begins by giving a brief definition of prosperity as the abundance of wealth, health, self esteem, etc. Then, we used Mormonism’s use of James 1:5 as a case study in flawed Biblical interpretation. Now, with a better understanding of how to approach interpretation, we took these tools to the Word Faith’s use of 3 John 2, and found that they make the same interpretive mistakes as the Mormons. Video clips were utilized of Joel Osteen, Oprah Winfrey, Kenneth Copland, Jesse Duplantis and Rodd Parsley.

This class discusses the Word Faith teaching on John 10:10 and Jeremiah 29:11 and 2 Corinthians 1:20. Using some of the interpretive tools discussed in class 2, we see that the Word Faith teachers fail in their use of scripture. Video clips were utilized of John Hagee, Joyce Meyer, Fred Price, Joel Osteen and John Sheasby.

Now that we have a basic understanding of the Word Faith concept of prosperity, and how they misuse scripture, we now ask why we don’t have prosperity. If God wants us rich and completely healthy, how come we are not? First of all, the fall destroyed prosperity, and it is now up to us to cause our prosperity to materialize by utilizing “faith.” In class, we looked at their unconventional definition of faith, discussed who uses faith and saw how it functions in our lives. Next class we will look into the Bible to see what it says about this important topic.

This class begins a two part Biblical exploration of the subject of faith. Is faith a creative power that produces positive and negative effects like the Word Faith teachers claim? Or is it trusting in the promises of God? In this class, we take a deeper looking into Hebrews 11:1 to see how it uses “faith” in context to the verses around it. It is clear from this study that the author of Hebrews did not endorse Word Faith theology.

After finishing a look at the Bible’s use of the word “faith,” we continue by addressing the concept of the “power of words.” The Word Faith teachers claim that the Bible teaches that words are containers for power, and can be used to create wealth and health in our lives. In this class, we discuss what it means that God creates by speaking, and explore several key verses (Isaiah 55:11, Proverbs 18:21).

Now that we have a firm grasp of how they misuse the scriptures, and have explored their doctrine of words/faith, we are now ready to explore the issues of prosperity. In this class, we take a look at their teaching on financial prosperity. We will talk about what it means to WF folks that we are “released from the curse of the law,” and that we have a covenant with God to be rich. We will also look briefly at their claim that Jesus was rich.

Now that we have a firm grasp of how they misuse the scriptures, and have explored their doctrine of words/faith, we are now ready to explore the issues of prosperity. In this class, we take a look at their teaching on financial prosperity. We will talk about what it means to WF folks that we are “released from the curse of the law,” and that we have a covenant with God to be rich. We will also look briefly at their claim that Jesus was rich.

This class continues the theme from last week of exploring the Word Faith concept of prosperity. Last week we covered the financial aspect of prosperity, now we will look at health and eternal life. As with financial prosperity, we will see that the WF teachers say that we are guaranteed healing in this life through the atonement of Christ. So, if you do not have healing, then you do not have faith. Concerning the concept of “eternal life,” we will see some major WF teachers downplay the significance of this important Biblical concept.

What does the Word Faith teachers believe about “authority?” This is a very important concept in WF doctrine. We explore the concept and see how it undermines God’s ability to carry out His will in our lives. We also compare their teaching on authority to their concept of faith, and see that there are contradictions that cannot be reconciled.

In this final session of this series, I offer some theological criticisms of important principles that Word Faith teachers should know. I discuss God’s timing for healing, the “prayer of faith,” the purpose of life,” and the role of joy in the life of the believer.

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | June 24, 2014

Lessons I’ve Learned From False Teachers by Tim Challies

: A few months ago I began a short series called “The False Teachers.” I wanted to look back through church history to meet some of the people who have undermined the church at various points. We looked at historical figures like Joseph Smith who founded Mormonism and Ellen G. White who led the Seventh Day Adventists into prominence, and we looked at contemporary figures like Benny Hinn, the prominent faith healer, and T.D. Jakes, who has tampered with the doctrine of the Trinity.

I will soon be starting a new series looking at The Defenders, Christians known for defending the church against a certain theological challenge or a specific false teaching. I will be focusing on modern times and modern issues such as inerrancy and Open Theism. But before I do that, I wanted to reflect on some of what I’ve learned as I’ve spent time considering false teachers and false teaching. Here are a few lessons I’ve learned from false teachers.

False Teachers Are Common

The first and most fundamental thing I learned about false teachers is that we ought to expect them and be on the lookout for them. They are common in every era of church history. This should not surprise us, since the Bible warns that we are on war footing in this world, and that Satan is on full-out offensive against God and his people. And sure enough, history shows that whenever the gospel advances, error follows in its wake. When and where there are teachers of truth, there will necessarily be teachers of error. Perhaps the most surprising thing about false teachers is that we continue to be surprised by them.

False Teachers Are Deceptive

False teachers are deceptive. They do not announce themselves as false teachers, but proclaim themselves angels of light, people who have access to wisdom others have missed or misplaced. As Denny Burk says, “False teachers typically won’t show up to your church wearing a sandwich board saying, ‘I am a false teacher’.” Instead they begin within the bounds of orthodoxy and announce themselves only slowly and through their subtly-twisted doctrine. They turn away from orthodoxy one step at a time rather than all at once.

False Teachers Are Dangerous

False teachers are dangerous, and part of what makes them so dangerous is that they will affirm so much that is good and true. They will not deny all of the doctrines upon which the Christian faith stands or falls, but only select parts of it. They draw in the unsuspecting with all they affirm and only later destroy them with all they deny. There is an important lesson: We only know a person when he understand both what he affirms and what he denies.

False Teachers Are Divisive

False teachers cause division within the church and often cause division even among true Christians. Because false teachers tend to remain within the church, and because they claim to be honoring the Bible, they confuse true believers and drive wedges between them. Amazingly, it is often those who stand fast against falsehood who get labeled as divisive. The church often trusts a smiling false teacher ahead of a frowning defender.

False Teachers Give People What They Want

As Paul wrote his final letter to Timothy he warned that the time was coming when people would not endure sound teaching (and hence, sound teachers) but instead they would have itching ears and demand teachers who would satisfy this itch. False teachers do this very thing. Their concern is not for what people truly need, but for what people want. The concern of the Christian is the exact opposite—the gospel does not address what we want, but what we need!

False Teachers Are Not Innocent

False teachers know they are false teachers. This may not be true all the time, and perhaps some false teachers deceive themselves before they deceive others. But I believe most know who and what they are; in fact, I believe most know and delight in who and what they are. They are not naive people who have taken a wrong turn in their theology, but evil people who are out to destroy others. Their attack on truth is far more brazen than we may like to think.

False Teachers Cannot Tolerate the Gospel

False teachers simply cannot tolerate the gospel. At some level and in some way, they will always add to or subtract from the pure and sweet gospel of salvation by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone. They may affirm the Trinity or inerrancy or the deity of Jesus Christ, but they will never fully affirm the gospel of the Bible.

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | June 21, 2014

Can Man Supernaturally Speak Things Into Existence?

"If we say it long enough eventually we're going to reap a harvest. We're going to get exactly what we're saying" - Joel Osteen (From BrainyQuotes)

“If we say it long enough eventually we’re going to reap a harvest. We’re going to get exactly what we’re saying” – Joel Osteen (From BrainyQuotes)

SOURCE: There is no question that the words we speak matter. They matter a lot. But do they have the power to create miracles?

I am not talking about the power of God’s Word to create miracles. That’s a given. I am not even talking about the miracle-working power of God in answer to prayer. That too is a given. Instead, I am talking about a special ability within man to speak things into reality.

Can man really speak miracles into existence simply by declaring whatever he wants to see happen?

At his recent stadium event in New York City, Joel Osteen invited a group of prominent pastors to speak “positive declarations” because he believes man’s declarations are able to create miracles. You know, the kind of miracles we tend to think only God can create.

One of the pastors on stage said, “We declare the supernatural favor of God over your finances.” Another said, “We declare a prosperity miracle upon your life and your pastor.” And other pastors made declarations covering a whole range of personal, family and community needs. But can “declaring” something you desire, no matter how noble, actually make it come true?

It’s a seductive thought. It’s like having your own little genie in a bottle, and you control the genie by the words you say. Speak words of health and wealth, and the genie magically grants you the specifics of your declaration. Actually, you are granting yourself the things you want by choosing to declare it in faith. Just believe it as you speak it into reality.

So I guess that makes you the genie. Hmm.

Too good to be true? Well, that assumes it is a “good” concept in the first place. Surely Jesus must have taught His disciples how to “declare” things into existence.

That is, if this special method of attaining health and wealth is really something the Lord wants us to be attempting.

The closest thing we see in the New Testament to believers “declaring miracles” might be when the disciples cast demons out of people. (see Luke 10:17 and Acts 5:16) Of course these miracles were only happening by the power of God in the name of Jesus. But nowhere does Jesus ever tell his disciples to “declare” their way to financial riches. Instead, Jesus warned His disciples about lusting for more money. Our Lord made it clear that man cannot serve both God and money. (Matthew 6:24-25)

Rather than teaching His disciples to “speak into existence” a boatload of material possessions for themselves, Jesus regularly told them just the opposite. That’s because true faith seeks first the kingdom of God, and the Lord provides for our needs as we rely upon Him to meet them. (Matthew 6:26-33)
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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | June 20, 2014

Occultic Origins of Joel Osteens Word of Faith Teaching

If you like Joel Osteen, you owe it to yourself to watch this video to learn where his teachings come from. His self help/thought power/word power teachings has been taught for hundreds of years in the occult. Going all the way back to the Theosophical Society, through the New Thought Movement and into what we now know as the New Age Movement, these teachings are not Christian and do not have their origins in the Bible or Christianity. This 13 minute clip shows quotes from occult literature to show the occultic origins of Osteen’s teaching.

In this video entitled “Joel Osteen on the Gospel” from the Joel Osteen Ministries Youtube channel, Joel really shows his disregard for the Gospel of Jesus Christ. He reduces the story of Jesus’s death, burial and resurrection (for our sins) to an example for us to follow as to how to persevere. Joel states that in Jesus’s darkest moments He wanted to give up but decided to persevere like we must decide to persevere. And that in our Garden of Gethsemane moments we must remember that it is not over until God says it is over, so just hang in there. But this should be scandalous. There is no mention of our sin and our salvation from the penalty of our sin. gospel in a nutshell There is no substitutionary atonement, there is no washing of sin by the shed blood of the Lamb to take away the sin of the world, in fact there is no mention of condemnation or salvation at all. Watch the following five minute video and I am sure you will agree that it is a disgrace for Osteen to belittle the work of Christ in the manner he does here. And here in this three minute video from the Joel Osteen Youtube channel named “Joel Osteen – What kind of Gospel does he preach?”,, Osteen does it again. Is it not obvious that Joel Otseen does not preach the gospel of Jesus Christ?

FALSESOURCE: As the offering is about to be taken at the Compaq center, Joel Osteen’s wife and co-pastor Victoria urges generosity as a way of prompting God’s favor. “He not only wants to enrich you but do things for you you know nothing about,” she said. “Let him breathe the breath of life into your finances and he’ll give it back to you bigger than you could ever give it to him,” she said. To which the congregation, said, “Amen,” and the buckets went around. This paraphrased excerpt is but a part of a new article in today’s NY Times about the ministry and enormous success of Joel Osteen, and in particular his recent book ‘Your Best Life Now’. The whole article is worth reading. Here is the link.—-

With 20,000 peeople regularly showing up at his church in the Compaq center in Houston and bringing in revenues of millions on his bestseller book, it is not a surprise that many will wonder and ask— well what is wrong with a message that speaks about kindness, and generosity and success and prosperity? What could be wrong with this? What’s wrong with a message that hardly ever mentions Jesus by name, or sin, or suffering, or self-sacrifice? Of course this message of prosperity is not new in America, nor new to American Churches.

There used to be a TV preacher from New York called Reverend Ike. One of his core messages was on the supposed Scriptural topic— “The lack of money is the root of all evil”. He kept saying things like, if you have trouble handling money, send it to me. Osteen is far more slick than this, and in fact far more accountable. His ministry maintains public records and provides financial reports, and in fact he has not taken a salary since his book went mega-platinum. He has also reportedly signed an enormous contract for his second book with Simon and Schuster. He is then not a shister or a crook it would appear. His example seemsfar more beguiling than the obvious huckster. Wherein lies the problem then?

The problem is several fold, and it involves a fundamental replacement of what the Bible actually has to say about wealth, with what our culture says about wealth and prosperity. And of course when you preach a message that is heard as saying “God wants you rich” or is heard as saying “if you give generously to God (i.e. our ministry) he will repay you many times over”), then of course the implication is that the Gospel message is really all about us, and ways to get God to fulfill not merely our needs and desires but even our conspicuously consumptive dreams. But is God really a nurturer of a vision of life that says its all about me and my material success?

How very different indeed this message is from John Wesley’s Famous Sermon “On the Use of Money” in which he stresses that if you make all you can honestly and save all you can, but do not give all you can to relieve poverty, feed the hungry, make well the sick you may be a living person but you are a dead Christian. Wesley like the Bible warns of the enormous dangers of wealth, especially if it is used to provide one’s self with an opulent lifestyle while others have nothing to survive on. As Wesley suggests my luxuries should always come after someone else’s necessities, or I am living a selfish and self-centered life style. Wesley preached that Christians at the beginning of the industrial revolution should de-enculturate themselves, live simply, and have as their goal, giving so much to others during their lives that when they die they will have successfully given it all away. This sounds far less narcissitic and self-centered than the message of Osteen. And it comes from a different vision of God. God is not viewed as the grand sugar Daddy in the sky who exists to meet our every desire, and in particular our desire to live well, or even opulently. But forget the warnings of great church leaders of the past— what does the Bible say about such things?

First of all, I would stress that there are more warning about wealth in the New Testament, than about any other ethical subject with the possible exception of sexual and relational issues. And right off the bat this ought to seem odd to us, since only a small percentage of first century Christians had any prospect of getting wealthy. Why such a stress on a message that is the polar opposite to Osteen’s message in the NT when the audience was much poorer on the whole? It is a question worth asking. It has to do with fallen human nature and its desire to secure its own life on its own. But let’s start with some texts we will not likely be hearing preached from Osteen’s pulpit. Let’s start with Jesus.

The Sermon on the Mount would be Jesus’ version of “Your Best Life Now”. In it he says “Do not store up for yourselvss trasures on earth where moth and rust consume and where thieves break in and steal; but store up for yourselves treasures in heaven where neither moth nor rust consumes and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.” Mt. 6. 19-20.

This saying of course comes before the “do not worry about what you will eat, drink, or wear, because God will provide” message in 6.25-33. This text warns strongly against the accumulation of wealth, and in particular having and keeping for yourself more than you need. Jesus’ real concern is found at the end of vs. 21 in the saying about treasure. Human beings are acquistive by nature– consider how many Americans are addicted to shopping. Consider how our culture encourages us to think luxuries and necessities to the point that we can’t tell the difference between the two.

If you want to know where a person’s heart really is— follow the money. This could be said of all of us. And what happens to already self-centered acquistive persons when they are encouraged to be even more that way is that they commit idolatry. Their real center of existence is not God. They only relate to God for what they can get out of God. Their real center of existence is their own prosperity and life style— “God bless my standard of living”. we should have seen Osteen coming when the “Prayer of Jabez” became a run away best-seller and an excuse for continuing to think that God wants us all to be rich, even if it destroys our soul.

Notice as well that Jesus says quite clearly three things at the end of Mt. 6: 1) we should seek first God’s kingdom and his righteousness, and the necessities of life will be added to us. Jesus does not say anything about wealth will be added to us. He says the necessities will be taken care of if we are God-focused and seeking his righteousness, not our profit. And while we are at it it is well to remember that when Jesus says “ask anything in my name…” this means “ask anything that is in accord with my will, in accord with all my other teaching about the dangers of money and wealth, the sorts of things I would ask for”. If you are praying prayers Jesus would not endorse, selfish and self-centered prayers, prayers about purely material success then you had best not sign Jesus’ name to them, nor should you expect him to answer yes to them. 2) Jesus’ teaching consistently tries to get us to focus on God and others, not our own desires or needs.

This is not in fact the character of Osteen’s preaching unfortunately. He is doing his best to make us feel comfortable and happy if we are wealthy, and to simply see it as a blessing from God. But even if on occasion God does bless someone with abundant material resources, the next question should be stewardship. The next question should be how should I use these resources so that God is glorified and others are helped. It should not lead to a “God bless my standard of living” and we give ourselves permission to live high off the hog. There should always be the thught that God has blessed you to be an abundant blessing to others, and I don’t just mean one’s own family.

Mt. 6. 24— “You cannot serve two masters. You cannot serve God and wealth.” The issue is what is your object of ultimate concern? Where is your heart and treasure? When you take a human being who is acquisitive to begin with, and then take away all warnings about the dangers of wealth leading to idolatry, you are in trouble.

Someone should make a huge banner with this verse on it and hang it in front of the Compaq Center for all those entering to see. We could also hang up the Lukan beatitude “Blesssed are the poor” (Lk. 6.20). How about the parable of the rich man and Lazarus (Lk. 16.19-31) which suggests that those who prosper in this life and do not help others will find the reverse is their condition in the life to come. So much for the slogan “he who dies with the most toys wins”. We could also focus on Jesus’ teaching about the fool who stockpiled his assests and of whom God required his life before he could get the full benefit from them. Have you notice that there is no theology of retirement, or pension accounts in the New Testament, no blessing of those who store things away just for themselves?

Jesus’ brother James is equally insistent about the dangers of wealth. Read James 2.1-7 where we hear among other things “God chose the poor of the world to be rich in faith and to be heirs of the kingdom.” He warns not to cozy up to the wealthy or give them preferential treatment not least because “Is it not the rich who oppress you?” You would have thought that after the Enron scandal the good Christian people of Houston would have become a little more wary of courting the rich and of lusting after the lifestyles of the rich.

Listen to what else James says “You covet something and cannot obtain it: so you engage in disputes and conflicts…You ask and do not receive because you ask wrongly, in order to spend what you get on your pleasures. Adulterers! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God.” (James 4.2-6).

Paul in 1 Tim. 6.6-10 puts it this way “There is great gain in godliness combined with contentment; for we brought nothing into this world, and we shall take nothing out of it; but if we have food and clothing we will be content with these. But those who want to be rich fall into temptation and are trapped by many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a rot of all kinds of evil, and in their eagerness to be rich some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pains.” There could hardly be a much sterner warning against believing in the health and wealth Gospel than this one.

We need to stop listening to the siren song of our culture about the goodness of personal wealth and material prosperity. We need to advocate a theology of stewardship which puts other people’s necessities before our luxuries. We need to simplify our lifestyles and get a clear grasp on God’s prioirties including God’s especial concern for the poor and destitute of the world. We need to realize that what Jesus promised us if we seek the kingdom is not prosperity,but rather ‘just enough’ to take care of our basic needs. We need to remember that the Lord’s prayer teaches us to pray for daily bread, not for resources today that I could not possibly use in 10,000 lifetimes. We need to heed all the warnings about how wealth can destroy the soul of an inherently self centered and acquistive creature– namely any human being. We need to renounce the false gospel of wealth and health— it is a disease of our American culture, it is not a solution or answer to life’s problems.

Sometime ago when Donald Trump was riding high, he was interviewed on the subject of “how much is enough?” This was after he had assets totaling in the millions. His answer was very revealing— “a little bit more.” This is the truth about human nature, and what Paul says about that nature is that it needs to be crucified, not indulged, it needs to die not be pampered. The goal is this “I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I wholive, but it is Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God who loved mne and gave himsellf for me.” (Gal. 2.19-20). The model for the Christian life is not Donald Trump, it is that man who made the ultimate self-sacrifice, the man who lived simply, fed the hungry, hung out with the poor, and renounced conspicuous consumption— Jesus himself.

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | June 17, 2014

The Word-Faith Movement: Worldly Wealthy but Spiritually Poor

wealth-poverty-1702-20090322-1SOURCE: It is important to note that the bulk of the theology of the Word-Faith Movement can be traced directly to the cultic teachings of New Thought metaphysics. Thus, much of the theology of the Faith Movement can also be found in such clearly pseudo-Christian cults as Religious Science, Christian Science, and the Unity School of Christianity. Over a century before the Faith Movement became a powerful force within the Christian church, Phineas Parkhurst Quimby (1802-1866), the father of New Thought, was popularising the notion that sickness and suffering ultimately have their origin in incorrect thinking. Quimby’s followers believe that man can create his own reality through the power of positive affirmation (confession). Metaphysical practitioners have long taught adherents to visualise health and wealth, and then to affirm or confess them with their mouths so that the intangible images may be transformed into tangible realities.

Some of the teachings and practices of the movement can be traced to certain post-World War II faith healers and revivalists operating within Pentecostal circles. Both Kenneth Copeland and Kenneth Hagin point to T. L. Osborn and William Branham as true men of God who greatly influenced their lives and ministries. Of course, Osborn himself has consistently followed E. W. Kenyon’s Scripture-twisting antics, and Branham has denounced the doctrine of the Trinity as coming directly from the devil. Twisted texts, make-believe miracles, and a counterfeit Christ are all common denominators of the Faith Movement’s leading teachers. And, as all who look into the matter will clearly see, it all began with the metaphysical teachings of Essek William Kenyon.

Essek William Kenyon

Essek William Kenyon, whose life and ministry were enormously impacted by such cults as Science of Mind, the Unity School of Christianity, Christian Science, and New Thought metaphysics, is the true father of the modern-day Faith Movement. Many of the phrases popularised by present-day prosperity preachers, such as, “What I confess, I possess,” were originally coined by Kenyon. Kenneth Hagin, to whom we next turn our attention, plagiarised much of Kenyon’s work, including the statement, “Every man who has been ‘born again’ is an Incarnation … The believer is as much an Incarnation as was Jesus of Nazareth.”

Kenneth E. Hagin

Kenneth Hagin takes Kenyon’s theology from bad to worse. Not only does he boast of alleged visits to heaven and hell, he recounts numerous out-of-body experiences (OBEs) on the earth as well. On one occasion, Hagin claims he was in the middle of a sermon when, suddenly, he was transported back in time. He ended up in the back seat of a car and watched as a young woman from his church committed adultery with the driver. The entire experience lasted about fifteen minutes, after which Hagin abruptly found himself back in church, summoning his parishioners to prayer. Despite his propensity for telling tall tales and describing false visions, virtually every major faith-movement teacher has been impacted by Hagin, including Frederick K. C. Price and Kenneth Copeland.

Kenneth Copeland

Kenneth Copeland started his ministry as a direct result of memorising Hagin’s messages. It wasn’t long before he had learned enough from Hagin to establish his own following. To say his teachings are heretical would be an understatement—blasphemous is more like it. Copeland brashly pronounces God to be the greatest failure of all time, boldly proclaims that “Satan conquered Jesus on the Cross” and describes Christ in hell as an “emaciated, poured out, little, wormy spirit.” Yet, despite such statements, Benny Hinn ominously warned that “those who attack Kenneth Copeland are attacking the very presence of God!”

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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | June 16, 2014

Word of Faith…Poison or Problematic?

Joel-Osteen You-can-change-your-world__quotesSOURCE: Recently Joel Osteen, pastor of Lakewood Church in Houston, came to our city to promote the new book, “Become A Better You”. The bookstore hosting his appearance reported selling roughly 600 of his books during the two and a half hour signing, attesting to the popularity of Osteen and his message.

That popularity does not come without controversy. Recently, CBS aired a report about Osteen on “60 Minutes” and included concerns raised by Osteen’s message, noting: “Many theologians from mainstream churches find Osteen’s message misleading and shallow.” But what are these concerns and, do they have any merit?

Primarily, they center on the belief his message, is at best, a very weak presentation of biblical principles and/or, at worst, a presentation of Word Faith teachings similar to those of his father. Recently, we asked Rob Bowman to research this and prepare a Profile for our Profile Notebook subscribers. Following is an edited excerpt of some of is findings regarding Osteen, his message, and some of the concerns being raised.


Joel Osteen was born in 1963. His father, John Osteen, was a former Southern Baptist pastor, who in 1958 became a charismatic and dissociated himself from the Baptists. In 1959 he started Lakewood Church, an independent, nondenominational church in northeast Houston, Texas. In 1999 he died and Joel succeeded him as pastor, though he had preached his first sermon only the week before John’s death and his only formal training was one semester at Oral Roberts University.

When John died, Lakewood had about 6,000 members. The church now claims over 38,000 attend its services weekly, making it the largest church in America. Joel’s youth, understanding of television, and “positive” message are likely all factors in the explosive growth of Lakewood Church since he became its pastor.

Osteen’s book Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps To Living At Your Full Potential, published in November 2004, has sold between four and five million copies. According to Publishers Weekly, [the book] was to have a first printing of three million.

The January 2007 issue of The Church Report identified Joel Osteen as the “most influential Christian in America”, ahead of (for example) Billy Graham, Focus on the Family’s founder James Dobson, and U.S. President George W. Bush. In 2006, Barbara Walters profiled Osteen as one of her “10 Most Fascinating People in America”, describing him as “rich, famous, handsome, and adored by millions of fans on television each week”. Osteen’s popularity provoked Time magazine to run an article asking, “Does God Want You To Be Rich?” that highlighted Osteen’s controversial message.

Lakewood’s doctrinal statement: Lakewood Church’s doctrinal statement is for the most part theologically inoffensive. It affirms the inspiration and inerrancy of the Bible; the Trinity (one God who exist in three distinct person: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit”); the death, resurrection, and second coming of Jesus Christ; salvation “by placing our faith in what Jesus did for us on the cross”; the practices of Baptism and Communion; and the importance of growing in Christ. All of these affirmations are orthodox, and Osteen does not seem to contradict them in his teaching, although he rarely addresses these topics. Only Lakewood’s affirmation of growing in Christ is problematic, because of how it is interpreted in Osteen’s actual teaching: “We believe…as children of God, we are overcomers and more than conquerors and God intends for each of us to experience the abundant life He has in store for us.” The motto or slogan of the church, “Discover the Champion in You”, may actually be more informative of what the church teaches week by week than its doctrinal statement.

Osteen’s preaching: Before Osteen preaches, he leads his congregation every week (as did his father John) in reciting the following affirmation: “This is my Bible. I am what it says I am. I have what it says I have. I can do what it says I can do. Today I’ll be taught the Word of God. I boldly confess my mind is alert, my heart is receptive. I’ll never be the same, in Jesus’ name.” Both in style and in substance, this affirmation or “positive confession” is a typical Word-Faith liturgy. The problem with the affirmation is not so much in what it says (we are, of course, what the Bible says we are), but in its focus (which is entirely on what the individual is, has, and can do) and in its implied meaning (that the individual is promised wealth and material success in this life).

The body of Osteen’s sermon (after an opening joke or story) typically focuses on a perceived negativity contemporary society – people are worried, or anxious, or lacking in confidence, or expecting failure – and the proposed solution of thinking and believing positively that God wants us to succeed, to be confident, to be at peace. Osteen backs up his prescription with a couple of biblical quotations and generous illustrations, typically drawn from his own life or from the recent successes of his church. The biblical quotations may be merely tacked on to the sermon at the end, as even Osteen admitted on Larry King Live; “I may not bring the scripture in until the end of my sermon and I might feel bad about that.”

Osteen’s Word-Faith message: Osteen, like some other popular advocates of Word-Faith doctrine to emerge recently, rarely focuses on the doctrinally controversial elements of that doctrine. In fact, he rarely talks about doctrinal matters at all. His preaching and writing consist primarily of folksy illustrations of people succeeding in life through thinking positive thoughts. Nevertheless, he has explicitly taught various key elements of Word-Faith theology.

Words of faith: Osteen credits his wife Victoria with “speaking words of faith and victory” that led to their eventually building themselves a large, elegant home (Your Best Life Now, 7).

Positive and negative confession: According to Osteen, people “usually get what they expect; they become what they believe” (Your Best Life Now, 73). He says, “Our words have tremendous power, and whether we want to or not, we will give life to what we’re saying, either good or bad” (ibid., 122). “Words are life seeds. They have creative power…Our words tend to produce what we’re saying” (Become A Better You, 109). Therefore, we ought to speak “words of faith” and “faith-filled words” (ibid., 110, 111). “Something supernatural happens when we speak it out” (ibid., 115).

Faith as visualization: Right in the opening page of his book, Osteen asserts: “As long as you cant imagine it, as long as you cant’ see it, then it is not going to happen for you” (Your Best Life Now, 3, emphasis in original).

To live your best life now, you must start looking at your life through eyes of faith, seeing yourself rise to new levels. See your business taking off. See your marriage restored. See your family prospering. See your dreams coming to pass. You must conceive it and believe it’s possible if you ever hope to experience it (ibid., 4).

Positive conception: Some Word-Faith teachers claim that Mary conceived Jesus in her womb by her own act of positively confessing in faith that she would have a child. This doctrine appears to originate from Kenneth Copeland, and Osteen teaches it:

God is saying something similar to what he told the Virgin Mary and others throughout Scripture…My Question to you is: Will you believe? Will you allow that seed to take root? The angel told Mary that she would conceive with out knowing a man. In other words, God was saying it could happen through supernatural means. It can happen without the bank loaning you the money (Your Best Life Now, 10, 11).

Prosperity by faith: Prosperity or material success – in terms of career, finances, housing, and so forth – is a prominent aspect of Osteen’s teaching. The following statements are just a few examples. “God wants to increase you financially, by giving you promotions, fresh ideas, and creativity:” (Your Best Life Now, 5). “God wants to give you your own house” (ibid., 35). “God wants to make your life easier” (ibid., 38).

Oddly, Osteen denies being a prosperity teacher. He told one interviewer, “I don’t in the least bit consider myself a prosperity-type preacher. I don’t think I’ve ever preacher a message on finances.” He made the same point to Larry King, stating, “As a matter of fact, I’ve never preacher a message on money.” Whether this is true or not, financial prosperity through faith is a theme that runs throughout his messages. Admitted, Osteen qualifies this teaching in some salutary ways, as when he says that he “can’t guarantee that you will become rich or famous” by following his teaching (Become A Better You, 14).

De-emphasis of sin and judgment: Osteen’s obsessive emphasis on the “positive” results in a neglect and even avoidance of the themes of sin and judgment. In his interview with King, Osteen admitted that he avoids calling people sinners: “But most people already know what they’re doing wrong. When I get them to church I want to tell them that you can change. There can be a difference in you life. So I don’t go down the road of condemning.” In that same interview, Osteen was reticent even to suggest that non-Christians were under condemnation:

King: What if you’re Jewish or Muslim, you don’t accept Christ at all?

Osteen: You know, I’m very careful about saying who would and wouldn’t go to heaven. I don’t know.

King: If you believe you have to believe in Christ? They’re wrong, aren’t they?

Osteen: Well, I don’t know if I believe they’re wrong. I believe here’s what the Bible teaches and from the Christian faith this is what I believe. But I just think that only God will judge a person’ heart. I spent a lot of time in India with my father. I don’t know all about their religion. But I know they love God. And I don’t know. I’ve seen their sincerity. So I don’t know. I know for me, and what the Bible teaches, I want to have a relationship with Jesus.

Reactions from evangelicals to these and similar comments by Osteen prompted him to post a clarification on his ministry web since (since removed): “I believe that Jesus Christ alone is the only way to salvation. However, it wasn’t util I had the opportunity to review the transcript of the interview that I realize I had not clearly stated that having a personal relationship with Jesus is the only way to heaven.”

[End Edited Profile Excerpt]

Certainly, someone might ask, “What is the problem with being positive in the words we speak, or having a positive attitude? Nothing. The problem is not in having a good and positive outlook on life but, teaching or believing that having such an outlook and speaking positive words will actually bind God to provide whatever one speaks.

As Bowman points out in his Profile:

“Osteen’s primary message is to think positive thoughts, a message that is not specifically Christian at all. Consider the “7 Steps to Living at Your Full Potential” in his book Your Best Life Now:

1. Enlarge your vision
2. Develop a healthy self-image
3. Discover the power of your thoughts and words
4. Let go of the past
5. Find strength through adversity
6. Live to give!
7. Choose to be happy

These seven steps would be at home just as much in Unity or Science of Mind as in the Word-Faith movement. There is nothing essentially Christian, or even particularly religious, about this message at all. In fact, a humanist would have no problem embracing these seven steps. Osteen sprinkles biblical quotations throughout the book (but so would a Unity publication) and relates these seven steps to a generic Christian belief, but these elements appear to be window dressing only. The “7 Keys to Improving Your Life” in Become A Better You are similarly generic advice that, for the most part, almost anyone could affirm (keep pressing forward, be positive toward yourself, and so forth).

“The Bible teaches neither positive thinking nor negativism, but rather a balanced realism that recognizes both negative and positive dimensions of human life in this age. Over and over again, it presents a balanced view of the righteous and the wicked (Ps. 1:6), the wise and the foolish (Prov. 10:1), human evil and human goodness (Matt. 7:11), and the future prospects of both eternal punishment and eternal life (Matt. 25:46). Paul was prepared to live or to die, expecting only to honor Christ whatever happened (Phil. 1:19-26). While he remained alive, he expected neither poverty nor prosperity, but learned to honor Christ and to be content in either case (Phil. 4:11-13).

Word-Faith theology is unbiblical. The doctrine that God expects human beings to be prosperous and healthy in this mortal life by speaking positive “words of faith” is a serious distortion of biblical theology. Our words cannot make things real (Prov. 14:23) except as we or others act on them (Prov. 18:21). God’s word, unlike ours, always produces results (Is. 55:6-11). Indeed, what we “confess” may be false (Rev 3:17). Perfect health and well-being are promised to Christians, but in the future resurrection life of the age to come (Rom. 8:10-11, 23; 1 Cor. 15:42-45).”

One of those who raised concerns about Osteen in the “60 Minutes” piece referred to his message as a “cotton candy gospel”. Maybe that is why so many find it appealing. After all, cotton candy sure does taste good; it is sugary sweet. However it also isn’t very filling and you certainly wouldn’t want a steady diet of it. In fact, it is filled with empty calories. Perhaps it also shouldn’t be lost on us that it is generally sold at carnivals, fairs, and other places of amusement.

Joel Osteen is, without question, energetic and motivating. His message is filled with hope and encouragement. But, is this consistent with Scripture, or is it more compatible with any of the many motivational speakers making the circuit these days, offering a “quick-fix”? Regardless of how Christians might feel about Osteen and his message, it certainly bears hearing with a discerning ear.


Posted by: Damon Whitsell | June 7, 2014

Joel Osteen Meets Pope Fransis at Vatican Ecumenical Event

Just months after the Pope sent an ecumenical message to Kenneth Copeland, a group of leaders from the Word of Faith movement, and Charismatics everywhere – Joel Osteen visits the Pope and says some very interesting things. Do you think Joel Osteen will agree with Angelican priest Tony Palmer – who is a personal freind of the Pope and delivered the Popes message to Copeland and other charismatics – that the Protestant Protest is over and we Protestants are all Catholics now. It seems that he would. Most Christians believe we are heading towards a one world government glued together by a one world religion. And it seems Osteen will be, wittingly or unwittingly, lending his smile and popularity to help that come about.

joel(SOURCE – HOUSTON CHRONICLE): On the same day his wife took 300 schoolchildren to the Bronx Zoo, Joel Osteen, the pastor of Houston’s Lakewood Church, was meeting Thursday with Pope Francis at the Vatican.

Osteen said Friday it was a great honor to represent the pastors of America in the meeting with the pontiff, whom he described as warm, personable and full of joy.

“I like the fact that this pope is trying to make the church larger, not smaller,” Osteen said. “He’s not pushing people out but making the church more inclusive. That resonated with me.”

The unofficial meeting also included Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah; former U.S. Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne; Tim Timmons, a pastor and author based in Newport Beach, Calif.; and Gayle D. Beebe, president of Westmont College in Santa Barbara, Calif., according to the Deseret News of Salt Lake City.

“We had very little time with him,” Osteen said. “We were going to have more time, but a cardinal died that morning.”

Pope Francis asked the group to pray for him and to pray for peace in the Middle East, Osteen said.

As part of a visit to promote interfaith understanding and ecumenical prayer, the meeting with Pope Francis was arranged by The International Foundation, a private nonprofit organization, Lee told the Deseret News.

Earlier in the week, the 15-member group met with Vatican staff members, toured the Vatican and attended the Convocation of Renewal at Olympic Stadium in Rome, according to a statement from Westmont College.

More than 50,000 charismatic Roman Catholics also attended the convocation, during which the pope knelt on the ground to pray, the Deseret News reported.

The day before the meeting with Pope Francis, Osteen said, he attended Mass in St. Peter’s Square with 100,000 people.

“Afterward, (the pope) spent an hour and a half going through the crowd with the Popemobile, greeting people,” he said. “It was very heartwarming to see him caring for people.”

Osteen said he met the Vatican’s secretary of state, Cardinal Pietro Parolin, and had dinner with another cardinal in a stone house on the Vatican grounds. The small structure with magnificently painted ceilings served as the pope’s home 600 years ago, he said.

Osteen is scheduled to speak Saturday evening at Yankee Stadium as part of his “America’s Night of Hope” tour.

His flight from Rome arrived in New York Friday morning.

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | June 4, 2014

What Benny Hinn says about his Critics

BENNY HINNCOMPILED BY MICHAEL HOUKE: “Yes, Lord, I’ll do it. I place a curse on every man and every woman that will stretch his hand against this anointing. I curse that man who dares to speak a word against this ministry. But any man and any woman that raises his or her hand in blessing towards this ministry, I bless that man. I bless that home! I bless that family. Under this anointing, the words I speak cannot fall to the ground. Under this anointing, everything I say, happens.” (Benny Hinn, TBN September 10, 1999)

“I want to tell you why I believe people get sick…In 2 Chronicles 16, verse 10 – and I like to read this – verse 10 and 11 and 12, the bible says sickness comes when individuals attack preachers.” (Benny Hinn, Praise The Lord, TBN, June 8, 1998.)

“I want to use Holy Ghost machine gun to kill Heresy Hunters.” (Benny Hinn, Praise-a-thon TBN, November 8, 1990 )

“If you have attacked me, your children will pay for it.” (Benny Hinn, TBN “Heresy Hunters” October 23 1992)

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | June 3, 2014

Joel Osteen gets his own SiriusXM channel

: NEW YORK (AP) – Texas pastor Joel Osteen is getting his own channel on SiriusXM satellite radio, which will air his sermon at Yankee Stadium this Saturday live nationally.

Osteen, who preaches to 40,000 people each week at Houston’s Lakewood megachurch, already shows his messages on the Trinity religious TV network and other television stations across the country. The new SiriusXM channel will feature live call-in shows hosted by Osteen and his wife, fellow Lakewood pastor Victoria Osteen, along with rebroadcasts of Osteen’s past sermons.

“It’s another way to get our message out,” Osteen said.

He said SiriusXM approached him about five years ago with the idea but the time wasn’t right.

“Five years ago we were still growing,” said Osteen, who studied television and radio at Oral Roberts University. “I didn’t think we could put the time and energy into it that we can now. We’re much more established and have a bigger library. It feels really right now.”

He said he’s considering Tuesday mornings as the best time for his call-in show. SiriusXM, which has 25.8 million subscribers worldwide, said Monday it will announce later when Osteen’s new channel will begin operation. Saturday’s broadcast of “America’s Night of Hope” at Yankee Stadium won’t be shown on television until later.

Scott Greenstein, president of SiriusXM, said people who aren’t inclined to watch one of Osteen’s television broadcasts may like the opportunity to check him out on their car radio. He said he was attracted to Osteen because he’s a charismatic figure with a wide following and a back catalog of material for programming.

“In the media business you tend to be New York- and L.A.-centric a little too much of the time, and there are a lot of things that are very important in the middle of the country,” he said.

Osteen took over his father’s ministry after his death and has built it to the point where Lakewood bought and renovated an arena that once housed the NBA’s Houston Rockets to hold its services.

WALTER MARTINSOURCE: In 1980, on a cassette entitled “The Errors of Positive Confession,” and in subsequent tapes, which have been widely distributed nationally and internationally, I warned that the teachings of Kenneth Copeland, Kenneth Hagin, Earl Paulk, Charles Capps, and others of the so-called “faith teachers” were a perversion of biblical theology and could only lead to deeper heretical doctrines.

Since that time the doctrines of the born-again Jesus and of Christians being little gods have evolved from the original positive confession teachings. Christians are now being told that Jesus Christ not only needed to die on the cross for their sins but also suffered in hell for them, and then needed to be born again in order to become their Savior! People have been misled into believing that men are little gods since they were made in the image and likeness of God and are to take dominion over the earth because of their godhood.

It is an unchanging law that heresy begets heresy and error begets error when men depart from the objective authority of the Scripture.

This does not at all necessarily mean that individuals who fall into these errors are unbelievers. It need only mean that they are ignorant or sincerely mistaken. But those who refuse to repent of their heresies when shown the error of their ways must be classified as false teachers in the biblical sense.

Certainly, we at CRI are all for faith healing in its proper biblical sense. But to teach people that their faith is sovereign over the sovereignty of God is a gross perversion of the Bible. It is God who is on the throne of the universe, not the faith of His creatures. We are informed in 1 John 5:14 that if we ask anything “in accordance with His will” He hears us. It is axiomatic that if it is not in accordance with His will, He will not grant our petition no matter how sincerely we ask or how great the magnitude of our faith.

The faith movement has proven itself to be a divisive force splitting churches, dividing families, and leaving a trail of broken spirits and bodies belonging to those who believed that all they had to do was confess with their mouth and God was obligated to obediently perform. The God of the Bible is not some divine bellhop who jumps at the exercise of our faith. He is the sovereign Lord who works all things after the counsel of His own will (Ephesians 1:11), and, when it pleases Him, graciously takes into account the faith of His children.

The so-called positive confession movement has done a great disservice to the body of Christ by paving the way for the errors of the born-again Jesus, the little gods, and the dominion theology doctrines. In the end these things will come to nothing, because, as the Lord has reminded us, “Before Me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after Me … I am the first and I am the last, and apart from Me there is no God” (Isaiah 43:10, 44:6).

The Lord Jesus Christ died once for all, offering one sacrifice for sin forever. Nowhere does the Bible teach that He ever suffered in hell or that men may become gods. This is Mormon theology, cultic theology, and Christians should beware when they hear it. This theology divides and does not unite the body of Christ, and must be avoided at all costs (Romans 16:17; Titus 3:9-11).

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