Ex-Word of Faith Testimony of Paul: I was the victim of a Cult

This testimony is lengthy but thorough, filled with Scripture and quotes, and it is very expressive of Pauls feelings about his short time involved in the Word of Faith Movement.

(SOURCE: Life Now and After Death) I am of the belief that witchcraft, sorcery, Black Magic, greed, deception, covetousness, selfishness, materialism, pride, temptation, idolatry, and blasphemy should have no place in a church or ministry that claims to represent Jesus Christ.

I was a victim of a cult. This writing is meant as a warning to unsuspecting people who may be involved in or considering any church or teaching that is from the Word of Faith Movement or Prosperity Gospel. I attended a church that employed both. I had seen the pastor of this church guest-minister at a church I used to go to in another State and I didn’t notice any obvious warning signs. Also, a couple family members who were also remotely familiar with this ministry and who are involved in their local churches encouraged me to ‘get involved’ as much as possible. I just concluded a very desctructive relationship so I figuratively ran into this church beat-up and unguarded seeking much needed refuge but little did I know I had just left a dark wooded place only to enter the home of known serial (spirit) killers.

I was not even aware that there were such things as “Word of Faith” or “Prosperity Gospel” movements and I was sitting right in it. Once I was spiritually flattened by this consuming machine I began to look back into what had happened. The Word of Faith Movement is where great emphasis is placed on the words that leave your mouth, all your words must line-up with success, and many other manner of behaivoral safeguards. The Prosperity Movement is where the belief is that all should be rich according to God’s great glory which is achieved by “sowing” money into the ministry; you pay the pastor then God pays you back with interest (Acts 8:20 “But Peter said to him, “Your money perish with you, because you thought that the gift of God could be purchased with money!” ). It was all the Pharisees and Sadducees and self appointed Scribes creating their rules to control people while pointing to scripture and collecting cash. These people keep you mired down in the bondage of law and ‘works’, not elevated by freely receiving the liberty of Grace through humility. They are the gatekeepers of such law and ‘works’.

Matthew 23:1-4 “Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.”; Matthew 23:13-14 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.”.

‘If you’re not rich it’s because you’re not doing it as good as us’; the wizards would imply. ‘If you’re sick you lack faith and you don’t talk the right way, it’s your fault, you idiot’. ‘We’re trying to help you evolve from being an ignorant sheep to flying your own jets, like us…keep trying (sending us your money and allowing us to control your minds), just a couple more decades and you just might make it…we love you’. Revelation 3:17 “Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:”

These cults were birthed under the guise of a more revelatory form of Christianity, on the cutting edge. They are heretical and preach a doctrine that takes away power from God and gives it to man. ‘God has given you the power, now it’s up to you to perform the correct way and use this power to shape your life according to the way you want it’. God becomes your own genie in a bottle, as long as you say the right magic words, He will come out of the bottle and do whatever you wish. It also promises new found riches if you follow the program closely but it’s nothing more than an ongoing ‘get rich quick scheme’ infomercial. A ponzi scheme motivated by the greed of the proponents and adherers; you pay money in so you can get more money out. ‘Because it’s God will that we be self-centered materialistic brats, you know, so we can be good witnesses for Jesus in this self-centered materialistic world. And once we have this money we can minister the love of money by giving some of our extra money to the lost and hurting people of this world who are also fixated on money, all in the name of our precious Father, Amen. It’s all clearly stated in the Bible, if you don’t believe me bring your check book or Visa card to church sometime and the pastor will show you, that’s just how much he loves you. Then you can spread to all of your friends, unless they are to stupid to see it, this refreshing gospel of Jesus Christ as interpreted by Benjamin Franklin’. Matthew 6:25; “Therefore I say to you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink; nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food and the body more than clothing?”.

First, these pastors have to get the audience to believe there’s something special, unique, and more Godly about them, a Pope or Medicine Man like quality; far from equals with the audience. Note, this has nothing to do with lowering ones spirit to being a humble servant, as Apostle Paul who wrote most of the New Testament did, it has everything to do with elevating oneself to grand wizard status as the Pharisees and Sadducees did. They convince the audience that they are more spiritually advanced than them and they have supernatural knowledge; like the kid in class who has a secret and all the other kids want to know. This is done through charisma, speaking with authority, bragging, and ridiculing people and points of views that don’t come from them or line up with their agenda. Once they’ve established their unique credibility and got their hooks in you, everything else is easy. They then create an atmosphere of ‘ooh’s and ‘aah’s from the audience, these pastors call it “Revelatory Knowledge”, to keep the audience bamboozled and mystified; in a sense casting a spell over the audience through deception. They package the messages in an uplifting and exciting presentation buttressed by out of context scripture to support their points. They offer gifts of empowerment to the audience. This is the exact same cunning as the serpent in the garden of Eden. Similarly, what it does is actually minister oppression to the audience; spirits of pride, greed, selfishness, and covetousness. What follows is self doubt, confusion, and disappointment when the desired results are not achieved. Some people follow this movement for decades. I was there for a little more than a year and I have been very regretful to God for my poor choices. Ephesians 4: 14; “. . .henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive.”.

Oppositely from the grand wizards, Jesus actually said this; Matthew 23:8-12 “But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have one Teacher, and you are all brothers. And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. Nor are you to be called instructors, for you have one Instructor, the Messiah. The greatest among you will be your servant. For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”.

It’s rooted in the same teachings as Christian Science, New Thought, and other forms of the occult and it has swept into the Christian world like a cancer. It began with the writings of E.W. Kenyon, which were stolen and plagiarized by Kenneth E. Hagin, AKA “Dad” Hagin (“Originally, God made the earth and the fullness thereof, giving Adam dominion over all the works of His hands. In other words, Adam was the god of this world.” ), who then merchandised the cult in a huge way; Kenneth Copeland (“Several people that I know have criticized, some of them are dead right today in an early grave because of it, and there’s more than one of them that’s got cancer.” ), Benny Hinn (“You have attacked me, your children will pay for it” ), Joel Osteen (who claims your future will be contingent on “the words you say today” which is from the occult), Joyce Meyer (“men are called god’s by the law, men to whom God’s message came, and the scripture cannot be set aside or canceled or broken or annulled” ), Fred Price (“God the father cannot do anything in this earth realm without permission.” ), Jesse Duplantis (said of Jesus “Why was He born in a stable? Because that short, deaf lady lost their reservation. He couldn’t get into the inn.” ), Creflo Dollar (“You begin to study the righteousness of God is also defined as having equality with God” ), and the gang over at Trinity Broadcasting Network (founder Paul Crouch said this regarding anyone who would get in the way of TBN which he claimed was “God’s plan”; “I attended the funeral of these two people who tried.” ) are fruit of E.W. Kenyon’s cultic teachings brought to us by Kenneth E. Hagin. Regarding the above cursing of people; James 3-9-10 “With it we bless our Lord and Father, and with it we curse people who are made in the likeness of God. From the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so.”; and, regarding the antichrist; Daniel 8:25: “…he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many…” (“craft” is witchcraft).

E.W. Kenyon went to an oratory school in Boston that was filled with the teachings and followers of Transcendentalism, New Thought, and other metaphysical cults…’you are what you think’, ‘you can have what you speak’, ‘we are all little gods’. It was Emerson School of Oratory where he was under Charles Emerson, a Christian Scientist, and R.W. Trine, a Gnostic who advanced New Thought. It is clear that his writings reflect this. Kenneth E. Hagin took these cultic writings and was able to charasmatically parlay them into great power, influence, and riches with his unique carnival barker presentation. Now they are mainstream and polluting the clean water of sound doctrine. Revelation 13:5; “And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies…”.

The leaders of this movement are already the masters, how else could they coach us if they haven’t mastered the movement? So we looked up to them as wizards and grand wizards. They were already living the life of the rich and powerful, how could we argue with them? The problem is they are spending money lavishly on themselves raised using the name of the Lord, the same Lord who lowered Himself to flesh, then lowered himself further to wash the flesh of men. Matthew 23:16-19 “Woe to you, blind guides! You say, ‘If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gold of the temple is bound by that oath.’ You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred? You also say, ‘If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gift on the altar is bound by that oath.’ You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred?”.

These people were selling an elixir for a handsome profit. Convincing the audience to pay to chase the wind. If the Word of Faith and Prosperity movement actually worked the audience members would see a dramatic spike in increase that would blow away the general population. They don’t. The underlying conclusion is that the members have not yet mastered the rules, their performance is lacking, they havn’t learned how to employ their super-sonic-force-fields-of-faith to the law of ‘speaking the right way’ and they haven’t learned how to use their super-sonic-force-fields-of-faith while ‘sowing’ more money to the movement. You see, it’s not the movement that’s not working, it’s the stupid idiot people, and the pastor’s continual criticism of the ‘great unwashed’ lines up perfectly with this conclusion. Oh, but the continual criticism and pressure and pointing out of your flaws is done out of love to help bring you to the next level, right? Daniel 11:38…of the Antichrist; “But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces:”. Talk about being lost in the desert following around a leader that is taking you nowhere, but these leaders would not subject themselves to the same heat and manna as you.

The most dangerous aspect of this cult is that it tampers with who and what Jesus was on earth when He was here. For the record, Jesus was born the Son of God and never ceased being the Son of God, God in the flesh, how else could a person not sin their whole life? They state that Jesus was a mortal man who only received the Holy Spirit while here on earth in order to perform His ministry… this puts their cult leaders on the same footing as Jesus. The grandfather of the cult, Kenneth E. Hagin, said “The believer is as much an incarnation as was Jesus of Nazareth.”. Jesus is God, we are not God, we are His created beings who He adopted into His family through the blood of His perfect Son. This cult seeks to devalue the heights of God and elevate the stature of themselves, stating that God had given us all His power and now it’s up to us to be Master of Ceremonies…this is the face of demonic spirits trying to lead us away from the lap of our loving Father and instead get us to worship a counterfeit god they invented. 2 Corinthians 11:4 “For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.”.

Subtle mind control was everywhere at this church. Demeaning implications of the people of the audience by the pastor, calling into question you, other churches, and people in general, never self effacing. Hostility masked with slick talk, contempt for humans hidden behind charming, cool-collected mannerisms. A dramatic performance. But nonetheless dripping with pride and judgment, Us vs. Them, and if you were not on their side you were one of the lost idiots they were referring to. Pressure was put on people to serve the church by working for free, saying you’re working for God, but with zero thought if that was what God Himself would actually have you to do. People were under constant scrutiny. But they would dole out responsibilities and recognition to those who complied enough, in effect sharing in “their” glory for those who do “their” will. They also conducted public indoctrination initiations of the members who were the most committed (compliant). Such as a very sweet and loving mature couple who were loosing their house because they worked at the church so much (for free) without jobs that they could no longer afford their own place. The leadership was in competition with God for the direction of your life and they lied about it by saying it was for your own best interest. They were introducing a foreign counterfeit spirit that conflicted with the Holy Spirit within, through willing ignorance due in part to their position and through their cunning, I wrongly assumed it was a higher ‘level’ of the same Spirit. The spiritual fruits of these people on me was destruction. Manipulation and control while trying to conceal who they really were from the congragation. Apostle Paul was a different type of leader; 2 Corinthians 11:5-7 “I do not think I am in the least inferior to those “super-apostles.” I may indeed be untrained as a speaker, but I do have knowledge. We have made this perfectly clear to you in every way. Was it a sin for me to lower myself in order to elevate you by preaching the gospel of God to you free of charge?”.

Extremely dangerous. The pastor’s wife would actually call-out people from the pulpit, not by name but by circumstances – if you heard it, you knew it was about you. Then follow that up by warning that more bad things may come upon you if you don’t do their will (they happen to have exclusive insight as to God’s will for your life, as the assistant pastor put it; “Because they know what the Bible says”). The head pastor stated “We have asked certain people to do things for us and they said ‘no’, and it ended-up costing them a great deal…and some of them came back after some time and said (in a muted tone) ‘I’m sorry, what do I need to do?’, and those are some of the poeple we end up using”. God’s will for your life is between you and Him without the need of a bewitching intercessor. This is called witchcraft and black magic, the only thing missing was a pentagram. This is demonic conjuring of dark spirits to exert spiritual control over people and it is from the antichrist. The Bible calls it “Craft”. In retrospect, all classic cult psychological and occult spiritual tactics. The danger is that people can be tempted into receiving the spirit of fear, which is a real spirit. Contrary to these pastor’s Magic Spells, the Bible says (2 Timothy 1:7) “God did not give us a Spirit of fear but of power and love and self-control.” – if God didn’t give this spirit of fear then who did (Matthew 7:16; By their fruits you will get knowledge of them. Do men get grapes from thorns or figs from thistles?)? This experience was more desctructive than the destructive relationship I was seeking healing from. I am the idiot for allowing this in my life, especially for so long, it sort of came on me gradually and I was in a vulnerable place in my life, I hope to God other people don’t fall into this type of soul-sucking church. I was simply deceived in mind and spirit.

I sensed a heaviness but was confused as to the source. They will continually remind you that your gut-check is faulty and that Satan is behind any misgivings you may have about anything they may do. Your discernment was only valid if it lined up with their will. They tried to debase people’s confidence to decide for themselves, people were viewed as slave drones created to serve their wants, this is the face of evil. They claim if you become offended it’s actually your fault because you’re fleshly and weak, even though the bible clearly says to be careful not to offend anyone; 2 Corinthians 6:3 “We give no offense in anything, that our ministry may not be blamed.” – here Apostle Paul is accepting responsibility for giving offense rather than blaming others for taking offense. They have all the bases covered. They are never at fault for anything, remember, they are grand wizards. This is a cult, I was right in the middle of it unknowingly. My life became filled with oppression.

They had an assistant pastor act as an enforcer, bickering and demeaning people if need be to get them to bend, but being nice, helpful, and advisory to them if all was well. A hired accuser. I was accused of things there and intimidation was tried on me when I no longer wanted to do things their way, you know – because they wanted the best for me. You know, the best, as in fear, confusion, and hurt…I’m sure it was because they loved me. A level of covetousness I never dreamed would exist in a “church”. Coveting my God given gift of ‘free will’; pressure, coercion, accusations, and intimidation for manupulation are not fruits of love, they are fruits of covetousness which is demonic regardless of what Bible verses these false scribes would like to cherry-pick. They want to strip away from you in order to add unto themselves, they look at people merely as opportunities to harvest things unto themselves regardless of the ‘holes in the earth’ they leave behind. Conversely, God is a giver not a taker. They blaspheme the nature of our Creator. “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied [preached] in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” (Matthew 7:21-23).

The Word of Faith and Prosperity movements are scams meant to control people and steal from them. They pressure money out of honest people and in exchange give them bondage and occultic superstitions. There leaders are filled with worldly, prideful, and covetous spirits; antichrist spirits. There are countless victims like in any other large cults. People’s lives are being stolen from them and it is very sad. I suffered one of the worst hurts of my life at this church, thinking I was actually doing things for God only to find out in the end that I was being used like trash then treated like trash when I dare stand up to them.

This hurt drove me to do a lot of research on the Word of Faith movement and that’s when I discovered that it’s founders and proponents were straight-up cult leaders, complete with cursing people from the pulpit (in the name of Jesus, of course), ruling with fear, and lying about spiritual experiences to mislead victims. They would attempt to stifle, discredit, and bewitch their critics by stating they are in danger of God doing something cruel or violent to them for speaking out against them. Members of these churches also parrot similar warnings of this type of voodoo and witchcraft against anyone who would speak out against their leaders. This makes them ministers of the spirit of fear which makes them minister’s of darkness, of the Devil. The heart and mouth of a man cannot minister fear and also minister the love of Christ (Matthew 7:17; “A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.” ).

It’s called brainwashing and they use tools of Satan to do it. Kenneth E. Hagin even claimed that God Himself confirmed privately to him that He would punish some of his opponents with death (this is ruling with fear, witchcraft, and Black Magic). Kenneth E. Hagin said this, “The Lord said to me, ‘If I give you a message for an individual, a church, or a pastor and they don’t accept it, you will not be responsible. They will be responsible. There will be ministers who don’t accept it and will fall dead in the pulpit.”, and “I say this with reluctance but this actually happened in one place where I preached. Two weeks from the day that I closed the meeting, the pastor fell dead in the pulpit. When I left that church crying. I told the pastor in the next church where I went to hold a meeting, ‘that man fell dead in the pulpit.’ And just a very short time after that he did. Why? Because he didn’t accept the message that God gave me to give him from the Holy Spirit.” Notice how Mr. Hagin cleverly separates himself from the alleged cruelty of God by claiming he was “crying” over this? He casts himself as the compassionate one and God as the heartless killer. I thought ‘kill, steal, and destroy’ were devices of the Devil? Didn’t Jesus come so that we may have life (John 10:10 “The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.” )? Would God kill these people Himself or would He hire Satan to do it? So the Lord does not kill if people reject His only begotten Son but will kill if you reject this conman? If God were to kill someone wouldn’t he first kill a serial child rapist to get them to stop before he would kill critics of some preacher? Notice where he says that God said to him “If I give you a message for an individual”, imagine the power Mr. Hagin would hold over his followers (Revelation 13:7; “And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them” ). This is straight-up witchcraft and a cult. Isn’t this what they accuse Muslims of, ‘accept this or we will kill you’? I thought God was a God of ‘free will’ and choice?

Really what they’re doing is using Black Magic to ‘channel’ dark spirits in an attempt to manipulate their followers and cause fear, harm, or death to their opposition. Mr. Hagin is using these public cursing rituals to conjure demons to try and destroy those who do not bow to him and his will. He is practicing “Craft” right out in the open and all his followers present were participants in this Craft. This is a far cry from “turn the other cheek” (Matthew 5:39 “But I say to you, do not resist an evil person; but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also” ) and “walk the extra mile” (Matthew 5:40-41 “And if anyone would sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. And if anyone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles.” ) to win people. Let me remind you of God’s true character; Mattew 5:43-48 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy. But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.”. Conversely, Mr. Hagin was going around blaspheming the Holy Spirit, saying He was going to go around ‘wacking’ people like the Gambino crime family for pastors not falling in-line with headquarters.

This is where the pastors at the church I went to learned to bewitch and curse people from the pulpit, from their cult master. Many leaders in the movement simply claimed they had special visitations from God who imparted extra-Biblical knowledge to them, knowledge about the Bible that’s not found in the Bible…in other words, God withheld this knowledge from us but He is revealing it to them. And pastors of this movement also LIE to audience members about visiting Heaven (this is disgusting and SICK!) to try and place themselves above characters of the Bible and above God’s Word itself (2 Thessalonians 2:9-10; “The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing.” ), while their descriptions of the experience are so preposterously unlike Heaven and heretical that there is no way that it actually happened; you may only catch these lies if you had actually witnessed Heaven, which I have via a ‘Near Death Experience’. They present themselves as representatives of God appointed by God, ‘shaman’…this is a lie, God shares His authority and Glory with no one. God is represented by humble servants, not high-minded know-it-all grand wizards who are actually mere men and evil ones at that. This is the most spiritually demonic stuff I have ever seen, let alone in a Christian “church”.

They are peddling the original sin – “you will be like God”. You will be in complete control of your own universe, in complete control of your destiny financially, in health, and in every other matter. They are selling greed and selfishness, which is sensual and it is a sin and Jesus stood against this. They are selling pride; people want to be the master of their own life and shape everything according to their own superficial wants. This is Satan in the church my friends. Members (me) are very reluctant to see this for what it is and give it up because it appeals to the sensual/sinful nature of man. We want to be preeminent, obtain mastery, stand-out, be recognized, be above others, be beyond the crowd, be more learned, and the Word of Faith preachers are right there to sell it to you. And they are a living example and self-proclaimed masters themselves. Self-aggrandizement, self-promotion, self-glorification, self-sufficient, self-exaltating, and self-deification…”you will be like God”…but in this case it is beyond God, in that God is not obnoxious and self-absorbed. Matthew 23:2324 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.”.

The love and humility of God is nowhere to be found in this movement. It was never built on that. Satan can’t fake love. It’s all about self. The pastor had a multi-million dollar house and a jet. Some of the people who scrubbed the toilets and mowed the lawn for free at the church were poor. The pastor never mingled with the members. The pastor’s wife would bully around and mistreat people, very controlling and vicious, all for love, right? Members and ‘average’ people were continually being subtly mocked and degraded, never built-up. The assistant pastor was continually being abused and humiliated. But, there was so much devotion for the ministry of God that they soared above all these nit-picky things such as love and humility, right? Sure, the grand wizards can’t be held to the same standards as us unenlightened ones, even though they are the ones paying for their jets and mansions. Matthew 7:16; “Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?”.

The sad part of it is people are actually fooled into thinking they’re serving God when they’re actually serving a idols. These pastors are like the super popular kids in high school who were star athletes and prom queens, people want to be like them, they want to be seen with them or associated with them. They drive the coolest cars and brag all about their accomplishments, brandishing their success, and wearing their letterman jackets. But really, these people are empty suits, they have no genuine love about them whatsoever. They lady checking bags down at Walmart has multiple times the love, compassion, and empathy for fellow humans. Looking back, the grand wizards are nothing more than flim flam men and dupes. These Prosperity pastors unknowingly mock themselves in the open, they make fools of themselves. They are god’s in their small little world but once you leave that world they do in fact appear to be still in high school. Mean spirited as well, bullying around vulnerable people, rubbing the money in peoples faces who gave it to them in the first place. Claiming to be highly polished anointed gifts from God…and you’d better watch it, or God will strike you dead or curse you if you dare be critical of one of these sacred cows…you know, just like Jesus who said of the people who were slugging him in the face and spitting into his open eye for our sake, “Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.” (Luke 23:34) . That’s a far cry from cursing people from the pulpit, don’t ya think?

The Spirit of God is warm, loving, and never pressures you. He is very humble, He adopted us, there is not two classes of people, the wizards and the idiots, it’s just God and His children, and no single child holds a higher place in His heart…men certainly aren’t esteemed by Him regarding the knowledge they brag about. These Prosperity and Word of Faith pastors are the exact opposite of the nature of God. They misrepresent him for their own sensual desires; money, power, recognition, control. There is no evidence of humility or love in any of them. Jesus Christ would have empathy and compassion for the unpopular kids that were picked on in high school, He would have correction for the bragging, popular, insensitive, know-it-all elite group at high school who walked around with haughty looks, clever and captivating words, and turned-up heads. “So the last will be first, and the first will be last” (Matthew 20:16); Jesus is not represented by the grand wizards, He is represented by those who lower themselves beneath the least among us.

Acts 20:35 “In everything I did, I showed you that by this kind of hard work we must help the weak, remembering the words the Lord Jesus himself said: ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’ ”. The pastors of this church would say that you have to have money to give. The most valuable and most memorable thing I ever received from someone is love, and that is also the most valuable and memorable thing I’ve ever given to anyone as well. But, the pastors would say that it would minister love to someone to pay off their car, for example, the truth is these pastor’s hearts are fixed on money and power and they continually infuse even the topic of love with currency. Love is spirit, and if you don’t have the spirit of love, true power is missing. Money is worldly power but it doesn’t fix people who are hurting inside.

Jesus is not represented by those who flaunt Rolex watches and several thousand dollar suits, displaying themselves as an example of God’s best work! Matthew 23:5-7 “Everything they do is done for people to see: They make their phylacteries wide and the tassels on their garments long; they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues; they love to be greeted with respect in the marketplaces and to be called ‘Rabbi’ by others.”. Jesus of Nazareth displayed His Father God’s nature in the form of approachability, availability, and humility. Never using Himself as an example on high, but rather an example on-low. The Devil hates this because this is where the true power of God’s love is, that’s why he has sleazy Prosperity and Faith decoys blaspheming the very character of God. “Do not let your adornment be merely outward– arranging the hair, wearing gold, or putting on fine apparel”; 1 Peter 3:3.

What was the first conversation about that Satan had with humans? God vs. self-governing. Were the spirit and results of that exchange of God? No. Did Adam and Eve mistakenly perceive Satan’s presentation as being good intentioned, new, and liberating? Yes. Did they recognize this presentation as a threat to them? No. Did Satan proclaim to offer helpful knowledge and leadership, a new, and seemingly better way to live? Yes. Was it tempting? Oh yeah! What seemed to be revelatory was actually sensual, and remember, Adam and Eve spent time with God in person so they also knew God intimately…you are not smarter than Satan and you are no closer to God than Adam and Eve were, the Devil can fool you from within a church.

I was dumb enough to fall for this trick. The subtle con is the same today as it was oriniginally. There is no such thing as spiritual evolution. People are people and the fallen world is the fallen world. If you have evidence that the nature of people and the world have gotten better over time I’d like to hear about it. Satan was at the helm of the church I went to, it is very subtle and I never should have doubted that quiet voice within. 2 Corinthians 11:3-4 “But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ.”.

In closing…God is all powerful, we do not share in His stature. We are created children of His, we approach His throne as His beloved children and not as His equals, just as you would approach a respected and loving natural father in our earthly homes. We rest in their love, warmth, and protection. Not like some sassy know-it-all teenage brat who is loud and overbearing even though he doesn’t pay any of the bills. It’s called reverence.

First and foremost the Devil hates humility. It is not that the higher you get the closer to God you get, it’s the lower you get the closer to God you get. It’s about being humble. And this movement represents the exact opposite.

The average person, the ‘unchurched’, are they going to come across a TV channel and see these creepy “pastors” curse people from the pulpit, fly around in jets, call themselves “gods”, live in mansions, and talk about money and self-serving ideas all the time and want any part of it? Aren’t the ‘unchurched’ what ministry is all about? Not some country club of know-it-alls passing money back and forth and acting like egocentric flakes, acting far worse than the so-called ‘unchurched’? The average ‘unchurched’ person expects and wants a higher purpose from people who claim to represent God, such as love, and empathy, compassion, patience, forgiveness, a warm spirit, focusing on things of a higher meaning…not seeing self-proclaimed men of God diligently pursuing the same things pornographers do – money, power, jets, mansions, recognition, position, and then also seeing the audience sitting there cheering and seeking the same. Matthew 23:15 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are.”.

Conversely, we must conform and lower ourselves in any such way that is biblical in order to win outside people to Jesus: 1 Corinthians 9:19-23 “For though I am free from all, I have made myself a servant to all, that I might win more of them. To the Jews I became as a Jew, in order to win Jews. To those under the law I became as one under the law (though not being myself under the law) that I might win those under the law. To those outside the law I became as one outside the law (not being outside the law of God but under the law of Christ) that I might win those outside the law. To the weak I became weak, that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all people, that by all means I might save some. I do it all for the sake of the gospel, that I may share with them in its blessings.”.

I believe the average person has a common sense of what’s right and wrong, what is superficial and what has depth, when they skim across the TV channel and happen across one of these snake oil salesmen fleecing their flock they may say “I don’t want any part of this, if this is what God and Jesus and church is all about I want nothing to do with it”, and I wouldn’t blame them. The Bible says if your way of life becomes a stumbling-block to your bother then don’t do it; Matthew 18: 6-7 “If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea. Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to stumble! Such things must come, but woe to the person through whom they come!”. But then, they aren’t the concern of these conartists, this movement just needs to lure in enough vulnerable people off the street and keep them hooked. Giving up selfish sensual desires for someone else takes humility and compassion, ministry is not these pastor’s first concern, ministry is used by them as a vehicle to fulfill lusts at the spiritual expense of vulnerable defenseless sheep.

Jesus summed it all up in one sentence regarding these pastors, as He is best able; “You son of the devil, full of every sort of deceit and fraud, and enemy of all that is good! Will you never stop perverting the true ways of the Lord?

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*After finishing the above writing I continued to do more research on this modern day televangelist movement. What I found was astonishing to me. I was amazed to learn how much these popular TV pastors had in common with the Freemasonry occult.

There is no way one can preach the Word of Faith or Prosperity message with contextual scriptural integrity intact, these preachers have to know this. These preachers of darkness resent the true God’s sovereignty and authority. They envy God’s position. They lie about His character and misrepresent Him as a way of giving Him the middle finger. While turning people away from the true God and presenting them with an idol of a god of their making. While scattering, binding, and stealing the money of those who truly seek Him. It gets no darker and nothing made Jesus angry like this.

Kenneth E. Hagin (Rhema Bible); Kenneth Copeland; Benny Hinn; Joel Osteen; Joyce Meyer; Fred Price (Crenshaw Christian Center); Jesse Duplantis; Creflo Dollar; and Paul Crouch (Trinity Broadcasting Network).

All brought to you by the 24/7 cult network, “Daystar” channel. The word “Daystar” can be synonymous with “Lucifer” (“day-star” in Hebrew = “heyleyl”, Latin translation of the Hebrew = “Lucifer” ). Other translations: “morning star”; “shining one”; “son of the dawn”; “shining star”; “star of the morning”, “shinning morning star”.

Elisha referencing the fall of Babylon, referring to the King of Babylon which would be synonymous with Satan; Isaiah 14:12: (International Standard Version) “How you have fallen from heaven, Day Star, son of the Dawn! How you have been thrown down to earth, you who laid low the nation! (English Standard Version) “How you are fallen from heaven, O Day Star, son of Dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low! (American Standard Version) How art thou fallen from heaven, O day-star, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, that didst lay low the nations! (English Revised Version) How art thou fallen from heaven, O day star, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst lay low the nations!

Their beliefs, their “church’s” architecture, logos, attitudes. It was just amazing and seem to clear-up the confusion that I had as to how these people could be so off and heartless. Well, it seems because they may actually be preaching a different gospel altogether, the Freemasonry occult.

Strong Freemason architectural queues can even blatantly be seen in Kenneth Copeland’s home, too. The entrance has a white triangle supported by white columns with the ‘all seeing eye of Satan’ near the top of the pyramid, even though the rest of the house is not white. Similar to the entrance of his jet hanger.

Freemasonry has ties to Scientology (founder Ron Hubbard was a 33rd degree Freemason), Mormonism (founder Joseph Smith was a 33rd degree Freemason), Seventh Day Adventists, and Jehovah’s Witnesses (founder Charles Taze Russell was a 33rd degree Freemason).

Word of Faith and Freemasonry have similar views with Mormonism (we are little gods; Jesus was born a man, Adam was the God of earth; God lives on a planet; there are modern day prophets; God has a body like a man; God is half male and half female; Adam began as half male and half female) and Christian Science (sickness comes from wrong beliefs, matter is an illusion…deny reality, your beliefs will shape a new reality, your beliefs are a ‘force’).

I took a look at all these pastor’s churches. Many have Freemason type architecture: domes, globes, obelisks, columns, pyramids, pyramids supported by columns, triangles, triangles supported by columns, arches, diamond shapes, circles…no crosses to be found.

Then I took a look at their logos. Again, Freemason symbols: an open book on a flat surface, hidden eyes, circles, triangles, inverted triangles, pyramids, hidden pyramids, a fallen dove, a flame, a bird, the world/globe, a three tiered water fountain shaped as a pyramid, a sword, diamond shapes, circles, dome shapes, arches…again, no crosses to be found.

Kenneth E. Hagin, Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, and Jesse Duplantis’ books, magazines, and ministry tape covers are loaded with occult symbols and imagery. A couple of Joel Osteen book cover’s show occult hand symbols. Rhema Bible logos and many of it’s ‘planted’ churches’ logos are full of occult symbols. Kenneth Copeland’s globe with a ring around it is an occult symbol, another one if his ministry logos has a circle with an bird inside, and a hidden “V”. The ring with a flame over a bird in the logo of Joel Osteen’s church is occultic, his personal ministry logo is an occult hidden eyeball. Benny Hinn’s logo incorporates a hidden ‘all seeing eye’ in a globe that has rings around it, with a bird overtaking it. Fred Price’s church logo employs a dome, pyramids, and and a hidden ‘all seeing eye’. Jesse Duplantis’ ministry logo is a globe with a ring around it. Creflo Dollar’s church logo is a globe. Trinity Broadcasting Network’s logo has a fallen dove and a small/hidden dual sided pyramid.

Kenneth Copeland’s church is Pyramid shape. Joel Osteen’s church has a giant globe in it with a circle stage, also, the globe is centered within arch shapes around the stage to present a hidden ‘all seeing eye’, and there are pyramid shapes on the ceiling. Fred Price’s church is a dome, the stage is a circle in the middle with a ring around it, it gets no more satanic than that. The stage of Creflo Dollar’s church is flanked by ancient columns. Trinity Broadcasting Network’s church is adorned with columns, pyramids, arches, and circles.

And their beliefs, same thing: Adam was a god on earth, we are gods on earth, Jesus was born a mere man, Jesus became sin, Jesus went to hell, Jesus took on the nature of the Devil, Heaven is a planet, we are exact images of God and Jesus, we have the power of God, we are equals with God, love of money and power, a higher than thou attitude, the desire to self-rule, God is the size of a man, you can and should curse people, all kinds of superstitions, ‘a positive mind set can shape your future’, ‘your own words will shape your future’, using vulnerable people without any compunction whatsoever, brainwashing, ‘we’re the same as Jesus’, and you don’t need Jesus to get into Heaven, He is not the only way. (Reality = Revelation 13:11; “…he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon”; he came representing Christ but spoke things of the Devil.).

Plus, many of them ‘run’ together and espouse the exact same views simultaneously, how could this be? How could so many of them have the same off-beat unscriptural viewpoints? It is a type of network and they rarely criticize one another and they all twist the public’s arm for money (for the public’s own good, of course). It seems they have a common source of mental and spiritual nourishment and I can tell you that it is not of the Lord.

I also looked at two of the throw-backs of this movement; Oral Roberts (was a 33rd degree Freemason; Kenneth Copeland was his pilot) and Billy Graham (was a 33rd degree Freemason). Oral Roberts’ architecture and symbolism is truly out of the Freemason’s handbook; a phallic symbol shaped pool, domes, pyramids, diamonds, towers, wow! Oral Roberts also had early ties with Kenneth E. Hagin, who’s church is in the shape of a pyramid with arches and his logos have a hidden pyramid with an ‘all seeing eye’ and a sword. Billy Graham could be seen on videos I found espousing things directly opposed to scripture, saying that Jesus is not needed to go to Heaven for example, and that God reveals Himself through a variety of religions. Also, William M. Branham, an associate of Oral Roberts, Billy Graham, and Hagin, and a fellow former Pentecostal cult leader, has a tombstone that is a giant pyrimyd with an bird landing right where the capstone would be…it gets no more occult than that.

Basically these people are weird and different because they are not of the same spirit. They represent the spirit of the enemy, in my opinion. There is an incredible amount of research out there on this subject.

What better place for the enemy to go but in a “Christian church”? People’s hearts and minds are less guarded, or unguarded altogether. Matthew 7:15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.”. 2nd Corinthians 11:13-14; “For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.”

The philosophy leaching up from their hearts and through their mouths, camouflaged by the occasional reference and twisting of a scripture, appears to be Luciferianism, which is based on enlightenment, independence and human progression (AKA a rebellious nature). Don’t take my word for it…read the below description of the beliefs of Freemasons then compare those beliefs to some actual quotes from these pastors below that:

Here are beliefs of Freemasonry (source: Albert Pike, “Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry”; Albert Pike, “Prince Of Mercy, or Scottish Trinitarian”; ‘The Secret Doctrine’, Helena Petrovna Blavatsky; “The Secret Teachings Of Freemasonry”; Gordon Mohr ):

1. They have wisdom that is greater than anyone else on earth. You attain ‘enlightenment’ through knowledge, you go up to higher levels of Godliness via knowledge, not love or humility or a servant’s heart. “It [Masonry] is the universal, eternal, immutable religion such as God planted it in the heart of universal humanity. No creed has ever been long-lived that was not built on this foundation. It is the base and they [individual religions] are the superstructure.”. So Freemasonry is the foundation and Christianity would be built on top of that, hence their prophet complexes. Maybe that’s why they claim to be “Anointed”.

2. They must lie about their true beliefs in order that they can deceptively teach what they believe while not being discovered. “A spirit … that loves wisdom and contemplates the Truth close at hand, is forced to disguise it, to induce the multitudes to accept it … Fictions are necessary to the people …”; “Religion … must needs be alloyed [mixed] with an amount of error [lying] … the religion of the many must necessarily be more incorrect than that of the refined and reflective few.”. They can’t come straight out and say who they are and what they believe.

3. They believe that all religions are an acceptable path to God. “We do not undervalue the importance of any truth. We utter no word that can be deemed irreverent by any one of any faith … We do not tell the Hebrew that the Messiah whom he expects, was born in Bethlehem nearly two thousand years ago; and that he is a heretic because he will not so believe. And as little do we tell the sincere Christian that Jesus of Nazareth was but a man like us, or His history [is] but the revival of an older legend.”; “Masonry … belongs to all time; of no religion, it finds its great truths in all.”.

4. They accept forms of morality which are not necessarily the morality preached from the Gospel; “morality of Masonry” is “the morality of every creed of antiquity”; Masonry is identical with the ancient Mysteries”. So, lying and swindling money out of the public is no issue for them.

5. Their views on God: Lucifer is a “negation” of God. they claim that Satan is God’s shadow and part of God; “… Satan is not a black god, but the negation of God … For the Initiates, this is not a Person, but a Force, created for good, but which may be used for evil.”. The Holy Ghost and Lucifer are one in the same; Lucifer, the Serpent and the Savior represents life though progress and independence; God is half male and half female; God is a “Force” and not a person; Lucifer is their true God; Satan is a reflection of God; “… Satan is not a black god, but the negation of God … For the Initiates, this is not a Person, but a Force, created for good, but which may be used for evil.”.

6. On Creation: They believe that God actually pours part of himself into His creations: “In virtue of this in-dwelling of God in matter, we say that the world is a revelation of Him, its existence a show of His. He is in His work.”. So, this may explain why they believe Adam was a god, and that they are gods and have all the attributes of God.

8. They believe that there is no such thing as absolute truth.

9. Here is what they believe about Jesus Christ: “Christ took upon Himself only the appearance of a body…”; “He suffered in appearance only …”; “Christ is “of the same substance with God, a manifestation of the Divinity, not forming a second person;”; Jesus was born a mortal man; when Jesus died on the cross His spirit(s) left His body and went to Heaven; This is probably why they say Jesus united with Satan, and they talk about faith being a “force”, Jesus was born a mere man, and that His death on the cross didn’t pay for our sins but He had to go to hell and become one with Satan.

Here are some quotes from these pastors…

Kenneth E. Hagin: “When was it that Jesus was begotten? When He was raised up! On that Resurrection morn!”, “Why did He need to be begotten, or born? Because He became like we were, separated from God. Because He tasted spiritual death for every man. His spirit, His inner man, went to hell in our place.”, “…Physical death would not remove our sins….”, “Spiritual death means something more than separation from God. Spiritual death also means having Satan’s nature.”, “You see, as long as I believe that I receive forgiveness of my sins, and that’s all (not remission, but just forgiveness), then I remain in the position where Satan will dominate me all my life….”, “The Cross is actually a place of defeat, whereas the Resurrection is a place of triumph. When you preach the cross, you’re preaching death, and you leave people in death.”; “Man…was created on terms of equality with God….He made us the same class of being that He is Himself…. He lived on terms equal with God….The believer is called Christ, that’s who we are; we’re Christ”.

Joel Osteen: “We have to conceive it on the inside before we’re ever going to receive it on the outside. If you don’t think you can have something good, then you never will.”, “your life will follow your expectations.”; “I can guarantee you that your difficult situation will never improve as long as you stay in a negative frame of mind.”, “Say you want a new job. You could use an affirmation like “I am getting a new job that I love.” Wanting to find a new partner in life? How about using “I will find my true love.”; Mormons are “Brothers in Christ”, “You can cancel out God’s best plan by speaking negative words.”; “the reason that you’re not experiencing as much as you should is because your not declaring it”; “You’ve got to give life to your faith by speaking it out. Your words have creative power.”, “When you go around saying, ‘I have favor, people want to be good to me and supernatural doors are opening.’ When you make those declarations of faith, you are charging the atmosphere.”; “It’s not enough to just read it. It’s not enough to just believe it. You’ve got to speak it out.”, “One of the primary ways we release our faith is through our words. There is a divine connection between you declaring God’s favor and seeing God’s favor manifested in your life”; “You are living a holy consecrated life, but you’re not really experiencing God’s supernatural favor. And it’s simply because you’re not declaring it.”.

Kenneth Copeland (the church I went to actually brought this guy in and allowed him to speak to the congregation): “When I read in the Bible where He [Jesus] says, “I AM,” I just smile and say, “Yes, I AM, too.”; and “People have even argued about whether God is male or female. But the Bible itself tells us that He’s both!”; “[God] A being that stands somewhere around 6′ 2 , 6′ 3, that weighs somewhere in the neighborhood of a couple of hundred pounds”, “God and Adam looked exactly alike.”, “God could not intervene since He had made Adam the god of the earth. God was left on the outside looking in.”, “The biggest one [failure] in all the Bible is God.”, “Jesus existed only as an image in the heart of God, until such time as the prophets of the Old Testament could positively confess Jesus into existence through their constant prophecies.”, “Jesus has a beginning and an end.”, “Jesus has not remained the same, he has changed.”, “He [Jesus] allowed allowed Himself to come under Satan’s control”, “Satan conquered Jesus on the Cross and took His spirit to the dark regions of hell.”, “Jesus took on the nature of Satan when He was on the cross”, “it wasn’t the physical death on the cross that paid the price for sin, because if it had of been any prophet of God that had died for the last couple of thousand years before that could have paid that price”, “Every Christian is a god.”, “Adam was God manifested in the flesh.”, “God’s reason for creating Adam was His desire to reproduce Himself”; “[Adam] just the same as Jesus”; “God must obey what we request.”, “[Adam was]…Just the same as Jesus when He came into the earth.”, “You have the same creative faith and ability on the inside of you that God used when he created the heavens and the earth.”, “Jesus is no longer the only begotten Son of God”, “Earth is a copy of the mother planet”, “I don’t preach doctrine, I preach faith.”. And finally, Copeland claimed God told him that he [Copeland] could have died for our sins in the place of Jesus, he claimed God said to him: “If you’d had the knowledge of the Word of God that He did you could’ve done the same thing cause you’re a re-born man too.”.

Creflo Dollar: “I’m a part of the God class”, “When God made Adam all he did was make an exact imprint of hisself. He duplicated Himself”, ““That was God in that body…It was God”; “So that like He was God in heaven, now He’s made Adam God of the earth. Adam has been crowned God of all physical things”, “Mars and Venus and Jupiter, all of the handiwork of God was now placed in the authority of the God of the earth.”; “those planets out there are just a bunch of unfinished work that God was designing for man to finish as they entered into God training 101.”; “we like him just a little lower, see he was there for us first and he poured us out of himself”, “[God] I’m going to have to reproduce Myself. Like I’m God up here in heaven. I’m going to make Me a god and put Myself in the physical body…the God of the earth Adam”, “WE are gods, in this earth, and it’s about time we start operating like gods instead of a bunch of mere powerless humans”, “you are gods because you came from God and you are gods. You are not just human. The only human part about you is this physical body that you live in.”, “I have equality with God”, “keep saying it I have equality with God talk yourself into it”, “We’re not gonna shine as lights until we accept our equality with God”, “you’re not a sinner saved by grace you sons and daughters of the most high God, you’re God!”, “If Jesus came as God, then why did God have to anoint him? If Jesus – See God’s already anointed… Jesus came as a man, that’s why it was legal to anoint Him.”; “Jesus came as a man and at age thirty, God is now getting ready to demonstrate to us and give us an example of what a man with the anointing can do..Jesus didn’t come as God, He came as a man, and He did not come perfect.”.

Benny Hinn: “I am a ‘little messiah’ walking on earth.”, “Jesus Christ knew the only way he would stop Satan was by becoming one in nature with him.”, “Although we are not Almighty God Himself, nevertheless we are now divine”, “Had the Holy Spirit not been with Jesus, He would have sinned”, “God the Father is a person separate from the Holy Ghost.”, “You say, ‘Benny, am I a little God?’ You’re a son of God, aren’t you? … What else are you? Quit your nonsense! … If you say, ‘I am,’ You’re saying you’re part of Him, right? Is He God? Are you His offspring? Are you His children? You can’t be human! You Can’t. You can’t!”.

Joyce Meyer: “We’re never going to mature and develop a Godly character until we learn to live with the all-seeing eye on us all the time”; “The Bible can’t even find any way to explain this. Not really that is why you have got to get it by revelation. There are no words to explain what I am telling you. I have got to just trust God that he is putting it into your spirit like he put it into mine.”, “if I am accidentally, or any other way, getting into error, I am going to have a bell go off on the inside of me that is going to be so loud that not only am I going to hear it, but so is everybody else.”, “he [Jesus] said I commend my spirit into your hands, at that point he couldn’t do nothing for himself anymore. He had become sin, he was no longer the Son of God. He was sin.”, “Do you know something? The minute that blood sacrifice was accepted Jesus was the first human being that was ever born again. Now that was real it happened when he was in hell.”, (about God ‘getting Jesus out of hell’) “Sunday morning here comes the sun. Sunday morning God gets himself together. Justice has been met somehow everything has been taken care of and oh God gets his voice together and he hummers up three words and they go roaring through the universe and entering the gates of hell. He said it is enough. It is enough.”, “I am not a sinner. That is a lie from the pit of hell. That is what I were and if I still was then Jesus died in vain.”; “I finally got it through my thick head I wasn’t a sinner anymore and the religious world thinks that is heresy and they want to hang you for it.”.

Fred Price: “Do you think that the punishment for our sin was to die on a cross? If that were the case, the two thieves could have paid your price.”; “they threw a net over Jesus and they dragged Him down to the very pit of hell”, “The Bible says that He has left us an example that we should follow His steps. That’s the reason why I drive a Rolls Royce. I’m following Jesus’ steps.”, “how can you glorify God in your body, when it doesn’t function right? How can you glorify God? How can He get glory when your body doesn’t even work?…What makes you think the Holy Ghost wants to live inside a body where He can’t see out through the windows and He can’t hear with the ears? What makes you think the Holy Spirit wants to live inside of a physical body where the limbs and the organs and the cells do not function right?…And what makes you think He wants to live in a temple where He can’t see out of the eyes, and He can’t walk with the feet, and He can’t move with the hand?…The only eyes that He has that are in the earth realm are the eyes that are in the body. If He can’t see out of them then God’s gonna be limited.”.

Jesse Duplantis: “I’ve had vehicles and the Lord said, ‘Would you please go park that at your house. Don’t put that in front of my house. I don’t want people to think that I’m a poor God.'”, “He [Jesus] had 12 full time people on His staff. Some were married and He took care of them. He had 70 part timers.”, Jesse was praying for his mom to heal, and said to God “You must obey your Word!”…”That is when God spoke up, “Jesse, I have a covenant with you, yes. However, I have one with your mother as well. You are praying for her healing. She is praying in her heart for Me to take her home. Now, I will obey My Word. But you and your daddy are battling your mother’s will. It is her life at stake. You have Me in a hard place, Jesse. Someone has got to give in. Get yourselves together and tell Me what I am to do!”, “Some people don’t live close to God the way they should. They know Jesus as their Savior, but they could do so much better. In heaven they will eventually be able to go to God’s Throne, but it takes more time for them.”.

Paul Crouch: “I think God’s given up on a lot of that old rotten Sanhedrin religious crowd, twice dead, plucked up by the roots. I think they’re damned and on their way to hell and I don’t think there’s any redemption for them”; [regarding ‘heresy hunters’] “I say to hell with you! Oh hallelujah.”; “Get out of God’s way, quit blocking God’s bridges or God’s gonna shoot you if I don’t!”; “if you want to criticize Ken Copeland for his preaching on faith, or Dad Hagin. Get out of my life! I don’t even want to talk to you or hear you. I don’t want to see your ugly face! Get out of my life! I don’t even want to talk to you or hear you. I don’t want to see your ugly face! Get out of my life! I don’t even want to talk to you or hear you. I don’t want to see your ugly face! Get out of my face in Jesus’ name.”.

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